Domino falling to stay in lead?

[Burvol]

your gonna get an earful for that one

Ha, your funny Caleb.

 

[Bushler]

I use drivers, but always with a wedge in the driven tree. Like John Ell. said, when they come back at you its gnarly.

I watched the one armed axman do a multi stem driver, he obviously was doing it for show. No wedges, several trees, I found myself thinking, "no wonder you lost an arm, you're stupid".

 

[hutch3912]

I use drivers, but always with a wedge in the driven tree. Like John Ell. said, when they come back at you its gnarly.

I watched the one armed axman do a multi stem driver, he obviously was doing it for show. No wedges, several trees, I found myself thinking, "no wonder you lost an arm, you're stupid".

That cracked me up. :agree2:

 

[tlandrum]

i use the driving tecnique a lot when i need to get my wood stacked out in good position for the skidder driver. it moves wood a lot faster to the landing when all the butts stack in a line. makes it a lot easier to hook up chokers. i also use my notch for a wedge so that i dont have to go back in and get my plastic wedges out of a top if it gets my stump brushed up. plus its just fun to watch all that wood hit the deck at once...

 

[Rounder]

Works good, just get out of the way. Got taken for a ride once.

 

[Metals406]

Works good, just get out of the way. Got taken for a ride once.

Where abouts in Montucky are you?

 

[Ontario_Logger]

ive been logging for 3 years kinda new to the technique of it, i just started to use it this winter. its good for production and easyer on me, not pounding wedges all day. it is nice for the skidder too when all the butts are going the right way. there is alot of risk involed when doing it i understand that. i only do max of 3 trees for the domino affect more that that is getting to risky in the hardwoods

 

[forestryworks]

Where abouts in Montucky are you?

he's in your area.

 

[arbadacarba]

If you are a good feller you should almost never have to domino fall and should never willingly choose to do so. Sorry for being a stickler on this guys, but its no fun playing pull the pancake from between two tree butts Add in a few joints bending the wrong way, paraplegics and quadraplegics, and some compound fractures and it becomes a horrific waste. In life you have to balance your atta-boys and your dumb f*****. For every domino fall you do you should get two of the latter!!! Hard to be a winner in life when you are crippled or dead. Even harder when you have no-one to blame but yourself!

 

[Gologit]

I'll use it when I have to. I don't like it much but sometimes it's the only way to make things come out right.

I don't much care for somebody preaching against it though...especially somebody that's not out there doing it for a living. My decision, my risk.

 

[joesawer]

I'll use it when I have to. I don't like it much but sometimes it's the only way to make things come out right.

I don't much care for somebody preaching against it though...especially somebody that's not out there doing it for a living. My decision, my risk.

Well said.
I know the osha regs about dominoe falling, But they do not take into account the exteme conditions and variables we often work with. Well maybe they do because they always use the "unless it can be demonstrated to be more safe/less safe" qualifier in their regs.
So if I can demonstate my way to be more safe, they have to abide by it.

 

[arbadacarba]

I'll use it when I have to. I don't like it much but sometimes it's the only way to make things come out right.

I don't much care for somebody preaching against it though...especially somebody that's not out there doing it for a living. My decision, my risk.

I don't disagree with you at all. The thing is I have done a lot of felling over forty years, have seen an awful lot, and I still have friends that fell. If you look through all the replies to the original post we all feel the same way about it. Even the best current feller I know knows he can't control it so he only does it if he absolutely has to. -Same response as yourself. I also know of a lot of extremely experienced fellers up here who retired rather than be pushed into practices which scared the hell out of them- one of them being exactly this.

What worries me is someone with little or no experience reading this thread and thinking that it is a good way to go. I think we owe it to them to give them a chance by encouraging safe practices from day one.

 

[Gologit]

I don't disagree with you at all. The thing is I have done a lot of felling over forty years, have seen an awful lot, and I still have friends that fell. If you look through all the replies to the original post we all feel the same way about it. Even the best current feller I know knows he can't control it so he only does it if he absolutely has to. -Same response as yourself. I also know of a lot of extremely experienced fellers up here who retired rather than be pushed into practices which scared the hell out of them- one of them being exactly this.

What worries me is someone with little or no experience reading this thread and thinking that it is a good way to go. I think we owe it to them to give them a chance by encouraging safe practices from day one.

You make a good point about people trying techniques beyond their level of experience. It's not a good idea and I sure wouldn't encourage it. You've been in the woods...you know how fast things can turn on you and how little chance you have when they do.

What I'm mainly against is letting a rule book take the place of common sense. No book can ever cover every situation. Blind adherence to a bunch of words written on a page can kill a guy just as quick as bad judgement and ignorance.

Besides...it's darn hard to try to hold that little rule book, read it, and cut at the same time.

 

[arbadacarba]

 

[Metals406]

he's in your area.

Yup, he's about an hour-fourty-five south of me.

 

[palogger]

i use it when i have to and thats it, this past summer i had a large ash tree that was busted at the base but still connected, hanging in a small tree, so i cut a little bit on the large ash enough to weaken it, and then drove both of them down with another large ash, if i had been able to get the skidder to it i would have had it pulled down, but at the time we had a d6 cat pushing skid trails for us and i was cuuting to get them through

 

[arbadacarba]

i use it when i have to and thats it, this past summer i had a large ash tree that was busted at the base but still connected, hanging in a small tree, so i cut a little bit on the large ash enough to weaken it, and then drove both of them down with another large ash, if i had been able to get the skidder to it i would have had it pulled down, but at the time we had a d6 cat pushing skid trails for us and i was cuuting to get them through

Now that's the type of advice we should be giving the newbies. Have a look at the situation, determine the safest way to fix it given your own knowledge and any advice you can get, and then fix it. In your case I would have added to the post the obvious - that the alternative of leaving a large hanger until a skidder was available would have been even more dangerous to everyone in the area than the solution you applied. Of course we all know that, but most don't.


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