Falling pics 11/25/09

[Metals406]

Must be a Nate thing... I've got the same problem!

Mah brother from another mother! :msp_razz:

 

[madhatte]

A-hyup. GTG comin' up too, gonna be a lotta idle chatter 'n' stuff, I reckon.

 

[slowp]

I'm not snooty. I say that snooty is a better term for snobby loggers....maybe another thread topic? :msp_smile:

 

[Jacob J.]

Now ain't that the truth!!

I'll never be a good faller :msp_unsure:. . . Cause I'm a freaking blabbermouth!

Must be a Nate thing... I've got the same problem!

Both you guys seem to do very well for yourselves, blabberin' or no.

 

[tramp bushler]

:hmm3grin2orange: I almost spit coffee all over my puter :waaaht::hmm3grin2orange:

 

[tramp bushler]

If your on flat or easy ground and the timber isn't too big a 20" bar is OK. If your back can take it. But. Short bars lead to real inaccurate falling. . Just because a 28" tree can be turned into a stump doesn't mean its better than a 30-36" . Heck ( don't get P.Oed) We considered the Montana's and Wyoming s to be short bared, easterners when they would show up in a camp in Southeast with 28" bars for their saws..

 

[Rounder]

I'd be curious to know which Montanans you've worked with Glen, pretty small world. Couple guys I work with have done some stints in SE.

 

[paccity]

 

[tramp bushler]

I'd be curious to know which Montanans you've worked with Glen, pretty small world. Couple guys I work with have done some stints in SE.

Now see, I said don't get pissed :msp_angry:. Most gys I only knew their first names or the moniker they got tagged with. A number of them were just called Montana. Some of them I never knew their names .. Ryan McBride was a real good little cutter from Libby. Butch? Where from? Montana. He made knives in his off time He cut for ,Buhler, then for Jim Byron . He got cut a number of times. There was a part native guy from the Poulson area. He talked quite a bit and smoked ciggaretts. But he didn't get hurt. Seemed to do an OK job with his timber. Lobby Sarett cut out at Long Is. . That's where he got killed. He was fast but according to 2 of his bull bucks, well.
Nice straight slick Larch isn't the best timber to learn how to cut Southeast timber on.

 

[tramp bushler]

Lonny Sarret. Not Lobby. Need t get this new fon trained.

Any Idahovians or Montana's that stuck around went to standard 32 or 36" bars. Unless they liked getting stuck in #### patches.

 

[Metals406]

If your on flat or easy ground and the timber isn't too big a 20" bar is OK. If your back can take it. But. Short bars lead to real inaccurate falling. . Just because a 28" tree can be turned into a stump doesn't mean its better than a 30-36" . Heck ( don't get P.Oed) We considered the Montana's and Wyoming s to be short bared, easterners when they would show up in a camp in Southeast with 28" bars for their saws..

All the Montuckians I know Glen, that cut a lot (firewood to timber), have long bar syndrome.

Sure, most everyone will use a short bar every once in a while. . . I like a 28"-32" myself, but have no problem with a 18"-24" now and then -- specially on the smaller saws.

 

[Metals406]

So, working with Ron -- who has 43 years on the saw -- is rather humbling, and makes me realize how much of a newb I am!! :msp_unsure: Regardless, I've been enjoying myself beyond measure.

Ron told me he was positive he was a Skookum cutter when he was 35. . . Then he turned 36 and realized he had learned a bunch more.

The guy lops timber like he's brushing his dang teeth!

I've learned a bunch, and it's been good hard physical work. Not to mention Ron is good company, and puts up with punk ass! :msp_ohmy:

He doesn't pay me (not part of the deal I made with him), but I try and work like I'm get'n $700 a day -- cause I'm still getting the better end of the deal.

He teaches, I listen and work hard -- you usually have to pay for that stuff you know. . . Like in college and stuff.

 

[tramp bushler]

Ben Thompson, I think he was originally from Delaware but he immigrated to Montana. He was a good cutter and last I knew was still alive. Kip Thompson, no relation was an awesome cutter he was originally from Idaho.. . He was at least a man and a half in 1 body. He was Real good. He got widow marketed real bad helicopter cutting at Ward Cove in Ketchikan. . I don't know how he's doing. Big Sitka spruce limb came down from about 100' up. . Kip was a really good guy. Next Pierce. . Wes Line berry. A good cutter from Idaho. He cut for Buhler then for APC at Rowan Bay. Dan Congilosi was from Montana got his neck broke helicopter cutting in Montana then immigrated to Alaska. He cut for Buhler and APC. Good cutter. Was running 394 s before he stopped cutting. His neck bothered him a lot. The guy from the Poulson area I think his name was Jim we were cutting over on the Goose Cram road and the White Rock Road on P.O.W.
Duane Lowe. I think he was from Idaho, but it might have been Morton?

 

[tramp bushler]

Fix this
widow makered
Nes Pierce
Goose Crik
Duane got bad hurt several times. Broke his neck the last time.
I like to laugh at Iron Workers and tell them how safe their job is.
Let me think, John Patton was from Idaho. Strong as an ox. Got his neck broke, went to runnin trader then Tending Hook then runnin shovel. He was cutting for Louie Lee when he got hurt the last time. Cutting at Rowan Bay. There's more, just can't remember them right now.
Anyone figured out yet why I don't cut for whirly birds. .

 

[tramp bushler]

Fix this
widow makered
Nes Pierce
Goose Crik
Duane got bad hurt several times. Broke his neck the last time.
I like to laugh at Iron Workers and tell them how safe their job is.
Let me think, John Parton was from Idaho. Strong as an ox. Got his neck broke, went to runnin trader then Tending Hook then runnin shovel. He was cutting for Louie Lee when he got hurt the last time. Cutting at Rowan Bay. There's more, just can't remember them right now.
Anyone figured out yet why I don't cut for whirly birds. .

 

[tramp bushler]

That was weird
runnin yarder

 

[Rounder]

Here in Montana, I've found the best bars to be the ones that serve Coors in a bottle.

 

[tramp bushler]

Heck, my favorite saw this winter is my little Jonsred 2050 Jubalee Edition Turbo!
With a 16" .325 bar running semi chisel Oregon chain full comp. I've fell, climbed and bucked up over 5 cord of wood with it and still haven't taken a file to the chain and it still cuts like a raped ape. But, if I was cutting stuff b igger than 14" on the stump. No doubt I would run a longer bar.

Alaska logging camps were mostly run like the guys from Washington and Oregon wanted them to be and most of the crews were hired from where ever the camp push, siderod or bull Buck or cutting contractor was from so I've worked with lots of guys from Morton, Mossy Rock, Castle Rock, Darrington, Coos Bay, Reedsport, Seaside, Grays Harbor, White Salmon, Vernonia, ect. ect. Most of the bosses were pretty quick to run off guys from anywhere other than they were from. The Grays Harbour guys were the worst at it. Us Alaskans got hung out to dry pretty quick far to often.

 

[tramp bushler]

Limbed not climbed. Don't climb at below 0 .

I plan on putting a 24" 3/8 full skip chisel on it for climbing this summer.

 

[OlympicYJ]

The Grays Harbour guys were the worst at it.

I don't know why.... but I'm not surprised. Bein from there It can get pretty clanish. Even between the crews. One guy leaves and moves over to a different outfit then the guys he worked with migrate there as well. As I hear tell guys from SE that came down to Grisdale didn't stay to long either. I always heard it was because of the steep ground but maybe they just got ran off?