Falling pics 11/25/09

[jaars]

Buena Vista, VA, pronounced "Bewna"-- correct me if I'm wrong Kid

and my favorite yet, Versailles, KY, pronounced phonetically, not Frenchish

We pronounce it Versales. Haha get a lot of s#*t with that!!

 

[Samlock]

Limbed not climbed. Don't climb at below 0 .

I plan on putting a 24" 3/8 full skip chisel on it for climbing this summer.

Second that!

I'm picking up my own climbing gear this week. So what do you say, Glen, about that chain and bar setup, what's the gain?

 

[OlympicYJ]

Hey Glen and Sam. I know you guys use small saws sometimes. I've got a stihl 260 pro with a 20" 3/8. Thinking of getting either an 18" or 16". Idea is to get a shorter package for limbing and firewood which is what it's used for anyways. If I'm thinning just throw the 20" on. Although an 18" might be a better choice. I've just started to get the feeling the 20" is a bit much anymore. Gonna stick with 3/8 for durability reasons. Would there be any advantage with the lopro?

Wes

 

[Samlock]

My 260 wears a 17'' full comp. Well, it's just a back up saw these days. I find the saw quite breathless running a 20'' bar.

 

[tramp bushler]

Second that!

I'm picking up my own climbing gear this week. So what do you say, Glen, about that chain and bar setup, what's the gain?

The reason I'm going to the longer bar is for the bigger Sitka Spruce and big cottonwoods. And sometimes when I'm in a Poplar clumps I can do 2 or 3 trees from the 1 I'm in. Some of these Spruce have 12" limbs on them and the extra bar length will help my th get another 30-40 feet closer to the ground before I need the bigger saw sent up. Getting older I get tired after going a hundred feet and 2 tanks of gas up a cobby old spruce. Hauling the 460 Stihl 32" 70 feet up the treeisnt my idea of fun. . I used a 460 Husky, 24" some last year and it was pretty good. A top handle arborist saw is great for small trees but a pain for big trees.

 

[tramp bushler]

N The reason for full skip is to keep the chain speed up. Pump more oil. . Its not a million mile an hour bushlin saw. Ya, its a little under powered but the longer bar is more for reach than for having the bar full of wood. With a chisel ground chain and not hoggin the depth guages down more than 25 thousands it should do good.

I've had 3 260 Stihls and ran 20" on them. But I view the 260 as a 10-12" diameter wood size saw. And 4-8" is more like it. A 16" just means more bending over. But u get more oil on the chain. So that's a good thing

 

[northmanlogging]

For climbing I use the Stihl 260 with 20" bar and full skip...but I don't climb real often anymore, My partner on the other hand uses a top handle still, and occasionally I send the 260 or his 361 up after him to do some topping or bigger limbs

 

[madhatte]

Gonna stick with 3/8 for durability reasons. Would there be any advantage with the lopro?

My opinion on this one is is pretty simple: while a specialty tool does its specialty best but may not do other things well at all, a generalist tool will often do everything "well enough". For this reason, the fleet at work all wear 3/8" .050" RMC, from 16" to 36", so that I can spin them all from a single roll. It's not the fastest chain, but it's fast enough, and it's easy to maintain, either by file or by grinder. A short supply train is a good thing.

 

[OlympicYJ]

My opinion on this one is is pretty simple: while a specialty tool does its specialty best but may not do other things well at all, a generalist tool will often do everything "well enough". For this reason, the fleet at work all wear 3/8" .050" RMC, from 16" to 36", so that I can spin them all from a single roll. It's not the fastest chain, but it's fast enough, and it's easy to maintain, either by file or by grinder. A short supply train is a good thing.

That's why I've stuck with 3/8. everybody has it! Never really was sold on .325 but I'm not a stick in the mud I'll try new things if there's a chance it will work.

 

[Rounder]

Not pic worthy, but Spring must be here. Wore cotton gloves instead of rag wool for the first time since early October. Pretty nice.

Hope you all had a good, safe week - Sam

 

[tramp bushler]

On Ya, anytime u make it threw the week safe and sound it's a good reason to be thankful and maybe celebrate a bit.

The reason I don't run 50 ga on over 80 CC saws is they stretch out or just get ripped in half. Even my 372 Husky and 460 Stihl tear them in half pretty regular. .
For climbing a 50 CC saw is pretty handy. At least for west coast conifers. I've been running 325 on my Jred cause it was on there already and I haven't changed it yet..

 

[paccity]

Heck, my favorite saw this winter is my little Jonsred 2050 Jubalee Edition Turbo!
With a 16" .325 bar running semi chisel Oregon chain full comp. I've fell, climbed and bucked up over 5 cord of wood with it and still haven't taken a file to the chain and it still cuts like a raped ape. But, if I was cutting stuff b igger than 14" on the stump. No doubt I would run a longer bar.

Alaska logging camps were mostly run like the guys from Washington and Oregon wanted them to be and most of the crews were hired from where ever the camp push, siderod or bull Buck or cutting contractor was from so I've worked with lots of guys from Morton, Mossy Rock, Castle Rock, Darrington, Coos Bay, Reedsport, Seaside, Grays Harbor, White Salmon, Vernonia, ect. ect. Most of the bosses were pretty quick to run off guys from anywhere other than they were from. The Grays Harbour guys were the worst at it. Us Alaskans got hung out to dry pretty quick far to often.

you ever work with chuck berg from oregon? he is a friend thats still knocking them down up there out of petersburg.

 

[tramp bushler]

The name is familiar, how long has he been cutting out of Petersburg? The last time I cut down in central Southeast was in 2000 . Went to Hoonah in 01 and thinned trees out of there then cut timber there for WhiteStone and for D+L. We moved up here almost 5 years ago . There were a few guys from Oregon that were working out of Petersburg and Lake when I cut for Turn Mountain Timber. They also cut for Hildy, SEA Island Cutting on Kuiu .

 

[tramp bushler]

Kake not Lake.!!

 

[tramp bushler]

Kake not Lake.!!

Actually, I forgot I cut for SEA Island on Dall Is. Bob Byers had the company then that was in 05 . Clean Gene Colbert was Bull Bucking there .

 

[056kid]

Few white pine pics. I forget how to make them full size..

 

[056kid]

Some poplar. Anyone saw a Dutchman like that ever. Works goood..

 

[056kid]

Few more

 

[mdavlee]

Nice pictures Ted. Where you cutting at now?

 

[056kid]

Thanks!
That's over in east Ten. Not far from Erwin.