Falling pics 11/25/09

[tramp bushler]

Top quarter Limbing cuts

30" bars are IMO the sweet spot for the 460 .. perfect balance good reach. Higher chain speed and plenty of oil.

 

[HuskStihl]

Just a vid I shot the other day...nothing spectacular. I still need to figure the camera angle a bit better. I know the vid is long but check out the big white oak near the end of the vid. I have never seen a tree with...umm...balls??...or are they boobs?? :msp_w00t: Thanks in advance if ya actually watch. Cheers!

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Heres a short one cutting a shell

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I thought you cut purdy good, ol' son! I also thought your 460 was acting a little boggy'er than I would have expected in that size wood. I can't hear #### on videos, but I'd check the tune. Do you ride a motorcycle?

 

[twochains]

I thought you cut purdy good, ol' son! I also thought your 460 was acting a little boggy'er than I would have expected in that size wood. I can't hear #### on videos, but I'd check the tune. Do you ride a motorcycle?

Thanks! Yes sir, I race cross country (Hare Scrambles A VET class)

 

[056kid]

Just a vid I shot the other day...nothing spectacular. I still need to figure the camera angle a bit better. I know the vid is long but check out the big white oak near the end of the vid. I have never seen a tree with...umm...balls??...or are they boobs?? :msp_w00t: Thanks in advance if ya actually watch. Cheers!

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Heres a short one cutting a shell

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Cmon buddy your makin us look bad...

 

[RandyMac]

Cmon buddy your makin me look bad...

fixed

 

[mdavlee]

I know the regular out put oiler is a little stingy on a 32" in dry oak. The HO oiler did fine in the same settings on a 460.

 

[056kid]

Not bad.

 

[twochains]

I know the regular out put oiler is a little stingy on a 32" in dry oak. The HO oiler did fine in the same settings on a 460.

Thanks! I'm going to see about getting a longer bar. I was just told earlier that we are moving to another site and this tract hasn't been cut before, supposed to have some good timber.

I read alot on here about full and semi skip chains, any reason why say a 30" bar and semi skip chain won't be the ticket? What about brands of bars? I figure I will just get a Stihl brand.

 

[twochains]

Not bad.

Nice log!



(there is no reason to be hateful)

 

[bitzer]

Thanks! I'm going to see about getting a longer bar. I was just told earlier that we are moving to another site and this tract hasn't been cut before, supposed to have some good timber.

I read alot on here about full and semi skip chains, any reason why say a 30" bar and semi skip chain won't be the ticket? What about brands of bars? I figure I will just get a Stihl brand.

Run full skip! I ran full comp for years and was alway told or thought it would be a little jumpy in hardwood. As usual just bs. I've put 250mbf on the ground since I've made the switch and it kicks ass! Very smooth and fast. I run round ground full chisel (not going sqaure until I buy a silvey). I'd run a 28" bar on that 460. It'll handle well and will still keep pace in hard maple (harder than hickory/oak imo). I think you'd want something in the 90cc range to run 32"+. That'll be next though. Buy a 390/660 and a 32" bar and really start puttin wood on the ground.

That shell white oak just needed a face and then rip er to the ground. From saw into the wood to tree on the ground in less than a minute kind of stuff. No need to be embarrassed. Thats how a lot of guys cut up here and how guys are taught to cut. Luckily I didn't have anyone to teach me. Makes you think a little more when you're on your own.

 

[northmanlogging]

See I've been debating whether to run full comp... always ran full skip unless the saw came with a comp or saftey chain... mostly cause they where easier to sharpen, but also since I seem to get a little more speed out of a skip chain in big soft woods...

Nice vids by the way...

 

[tramp bushler]

I really like semi skip. I really am not a fan of full comp I would rather run full skip than full comp. Full skip let's your saw keep it's r s up, which pumps more oil on the chain. The 460 is well built to scream. It's built to run at 14 grand and that's where I run mine. As long as they have a little bludder at the top free wheeling. That will clean up in the cut. Oregon makes 30" bars. Go with. 063 ga.. I run 8 tooth sprocket. I like chain speed. Less vibration!!!!! .
The 460 s biggest problem IMO is the air filter needs cleaned twice a day. Or they start gasping for air. I run a MaxFlow in the summer.

 

[mdavlee]

Oregon, Stihl, sugihara, cannon, and tsumura make 30" bars.

 

[tramp bushler]

OK. I didn't know. Thanks.

 

[Trx250r180]

I really like semi skip. I really am not a fan of full comp I would rather run full skip than full comp. Full skip let's your saw keep it's r s up, which pumps more oil on the chain. The 460 is well built to scream. It's built to run at 14 grand and that's where I run mine. As long as they have a little bludder at the top free wheeling. That will clean up in the cut. Oregon makes 30" bars. Go with. 063 ga.. I run 8 tooth sprocket. I like chain speed. Less vibration!!!!! .
The 460 s biggest problem IMO is the air filter needs cleaned twice a day. Or they start gasping for air. I run a MaxFlow in the summer.

i put filter covers on my hd filters now ,unless it slips off some they stay pretty clean,they repel water too View attachment 285922 View attachment 285923

 

[tramp bushler]

How does the air get in?

 

[Trx250r180]

How does the air get in?

its a breathable material ,air goes right through the black cover ,very little restriction ,on my chainsaw mill my reg hd old style gets plugged solid in a day ,i have a hd2 with a outer cover now ,i pull the cover to inspect and what ever dust is on it can tap with finger it falls off ,this is a very good product for the hd2 to keep from plugging upView attachment 285934View attachment 285935View attachment 285936View attachment 285937

heres my 440 hybrid was cutting cedar with last sunday ,you can see it catches a lot of the dust ,some gets by the edge ,the bottom of the filter was totally clean and i was able to tap the filter on my tailgate to clean what got by,heres a pic in sun also to show can how air can get through

 

[Metals406]

At 6'-4" -- a 28" bar is where it starts to get comfy for me. And there ain't a whole lot of timber I get to cut in these parts where a guy would have to double-cut with one.

Run whatever you're comfortable with, don't feel pressured to buy longer iron. . . Unless ya want to.

Like Bitz and some other fellas have said though, it's much faster to always be 'tip-out' in wood. Lot's of good reasons IMHO to not fall timber like the Europeans. Which is not a sleight against them, they've developed some cool techniques and tools.

But then again, if you're trained up and skilled with a 20" bar, you can knock it in the head as good as a guy with a long bar.

Ol Wade don't do a whole bunch of messing around, he just pounds some trees into the dirt. He ain't a little fella either.

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[Metals406]

Oh, and I called HAV Inc. yesterday, and a 28" Sugi (Sugihara) fer mah 044, and one fer mah 385xp is $132.40 and $12.00 a piece to ship.

I reckon for as much good as a guy hears about them, that ain't a bad price for a reduced weight bar.

Oh, that's for .050", .375" BTW.

 

[HuskStihl]

Ol Wade don't do a whole bunch of messing around, he just pounds some trees into the dirt.

I wish I bored that smooth. I also wish helmet cam videos didn't make me feel like puking!