Falling pics 11/25/09

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Falling down hill to a road. Some stop, some run. The cat Skinner is running some small john Deere dozer on that job, something comparable to a d4 I guess, they also have a larger Deere. The blade's range of motion on the larger one is impressive.
 
Cutting my way to some pine I crossed paths with this guy...good thing I was using my 30" bar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpXj4n4w9Mc

wow its amazing how similar your technique is to my own, I use the top of bar as well and taken a little flack for it but it works for me and apparently you too.that oak has good color and little sap, I bet that little bit rot clears up in about 18". that a 460? she don't do bad at all. great vid
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See, doesn't that just hang perfect!! Have you done your riders yet on that chain. ?

So, looks like you wernt hitch hiking too much. :msp_thumbup:

I don't guess I know what hitch hiking is? Saw is nicely balanced with that bar. The chain is that square files that I got pissy with and shoved round through it...I was much happier with how it cut than right out the box, Oregon must run a little higher drags er something. Yeh, I knocked the drags 4 licks...chain was gettin' a little dull when I shot that vid, I had been rained on all day and was being pulled out of there due to incoming storms...so I didn't sharpen. I hope that was a rain drop that got in microphone at the end of the vid.

I have that set of pine coming up, I dropped a couple of the big stragglers that were mixed in with the oak...fricken raining this morning :msp_angry: I'm gonna wait a bit and see what the day looks like and maybe I will get to cut today. I had to hold my self back from running over there and gutting that pine set out first yesterday...these jokers are tall and their tops are looming out the canopy by about 20ft. I think there is about 20 of them all running in a line across hill. The ones I did cut have that nice slick, mature bark, they are here for a reason...I will have to drag mainline about 200ft down to them! :rock:

I can't for the world figure out what ya mean by hitch hiking. :confused2:
 
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I don't guess I know what hitch hiking is?

I can't for the world figure out what ya mean by hitch hiking. :confused2:


Clues:
1) which "finger" do you put in the air when hitching?
2) what does Trampy say about most cutting videos?
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No :msp_biggrin: I really like watching everyone's vids. .

I guess I'm old enough to have done plenty of hitch hiking. , Thumbin a ride. Ya, ya know, when ya stand on the side of the road and stick yer thumb
out. . . As opposed to the modern hibred ascender/ descender piece of arborist rope climbing gear.
 
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If anyone thinks I'm overly critical of what different fallers do. I have a good reason. . Lots of head stones. Lots of guys that can't get out of their wheel chairs. . Most all the older guys on here and some of the not so old ones know lots of our peers that aren't breathing anymore. And some that if they are they can't run a saw any more.

I try to be just a good guy on this crew. But sometimes I'm just a prik bull buck. Sorry.
 
If anyone thinks I'm overly critical of what different fallers do. I have a good reason. . Lots of head stones. Lots of guys that can't get out of their wheel chairs. . Most all the older guys on here and some of the not so old ones know lots of our peers that aren't breathing anymore. And some that if they are they can't run a saw any more.

I try to be just a good guy on this crew. But sometimes I'm just a prik bull buck. Sorry.

Hey TB, I wasn't for a second saying your advice is not wanted. I (and I'm sure everybody else feels the same) really appreciate how much of your time you "donate" to guys like me and TC. Believe me, I "listen" to every word you "say" regarding falling (not so much with ceiling repair:biggrin:), and only referenced you in the above post 'cause I felt I needed a second "clue." Please don't take it as me being put off by getting instruction from you. I'm usually embarassed to ask all the stupid questions I have for fear Bob creates a "Falling 101" forum just for me, but I don't want to get killed or maimed so I try to do all the things you guys say. I see it as you looking out for our safety, not being a prik.
Respectfully,
Jon
 
Hey TB, I wasn't for a second saying your advice is not wanted. I (and I'm sure everybody else feels the same) really appreciate how much of your time you "donate" to guys like me and TC. Believe me, I "listen" to every word you "say" regarding falling (not so much with ceiling repair:biggrin:), and only referenced you in the above post 'cause I felt I needed a second "clue." Please don't take it as me being put off by getting instruction from you. I'm usually embarassed to ask all the stupid questions I have for fear Bob creates a "Falling 101" forum just for me, but I don't want to get killed or maimed so I try to do all the things you guys say. I see it as you looking out for our safety, not being a prik.
Respectfully,
Jon

Don't worry about it Jon. There aren't any stupid questions and don't ever be embarrassed about not knowing something.

Guys like TB and I have been in the woods a long time but we have questions sometimes too. You never know everything and, if you're smart, you never quit learning. A guy in the woods is in school every day and if he doesn't learn something or add to his knowledge, even a little, he's not paying attention.

I'm not trying to speak for TB here but I'll bet you lunch he agrees with me.

A lot of what we've learned has been from mistakes, ours and other guys'. Some of the other guys' mistakes had tragic consequences. I've lost track of how many guys I've seen get hurt in the woods but I remember very clearly how many guys I've seen get killed. Two of them were my falling partners, both were good experienced men. One of them made a mistake, hurrying and trying to finish up, and it caught him, the other one had something happen that couldn't have been prevented...a top blew out of a snag. You can't avoid some of the dangers but a lot of staying safe is recognizing the dangers you can avoid.

Proper cutting technique is the easiest thing to learn and the easiest thing to do.....when everything is going right. It's when they don't go right that skill and judgement come into play. A lot of timber falling, or bucking for that matter, is being constantly aware and constantly correcting small mistakes. Nobody does it perfect every time, not me, not anybody, but when you see that things are starting to go bad and you fix them...safely, correctly, and efficiently...you make life a lot easier for yourself. That comes with time and experience.

A good faller or bucker isn't necessarily afraid of what he's doing but he's wary all the time. Wary as in paying attention to whats around him, where his saw is, and what the tree is doing. If you're wary all the time you cut down on the risk level.

A close call usually means that you missed something that you should have seen or done something that you shouldn't have done. Not always, some times things just happen, but usually they have a cause. Close calls are a learning opportunity. Too many close calls mean that you're not learning. If you have enough of them and don't learn you might be one of those guys that get talked about at the saw shop or in the tavern...as in "yeah, he was pretty good but he sure got careless sometimes. Rough deal. Wonder if his widow is going to sell his saws?"
 
If anyone thinks I'm overly critical of what different fallers do. I have a good reason. . Lots of head stones. Lots of guys that can't get out of their wheel chairs. . Most all the older guys on here and some of the not so old ones know lots of our peers that aren't breathing anymore. And some that if they are they can't run a saw any more.

I try to be just a good guy on this crew. But sometimes I'm just a prik bull buck. Sorry.

No reason to be sorry...I genuinely appreciate every comment I have ever received on this site! Honestly, where else is anybody supposed to learn anything? I learn everyday and really appreciate the time you guys give to people!

Yeh, I fgured out the hitch hiker deal from HuskStihl. LOL! we call ticks hitch hikers around here...and it's tick season.
 
I don't guess I know what hitch hiking is? Saw is nicely balanced with that bar. The chain is that square files that I got pissy with and shoved round through it...I was much happier with how it cut than right out the box, Oregon must run a little higher drags er something. Yeh, I knocked the drags 4 licks...chain was gettin' a little dull when I shot that vid, I had been rained on all day and was being pulled out of there due to incoming storms...so I didn't sharpen. I hope that was a rain drop that got in microphone at the end of the vid.

I have that set of pine coming up, I dropped a couple of the big stragglers that were mixed in with the oak...fricken raining this morning :msp_angry: I'm gonna wait a bit and see what the day looks like and maybe I will get to cut today. I had to hold my self back from running over there and gutting that pine set out first yesterday...these jokers are tall and their tops are looming out the canopy by about 20ft. I think there is about 20 of them all running in a line across hill. The ones I did cut have that nice slick, mature bark, they are here for a reason...I will have to drag mainline about 200ft down to them! :rock:

I can't for the world figure out what ya mean by hitch hiking. :confused2:

Get yourself a set of corks, suspenders to keep waterlogged trousers up, wool & tin pants for the cold days, and cut your acc off in the rain, tell the skidded man you will have them layed out for him to get easy. I ####in love cutting in rain with a little bit of fog, turning them into lay on a good slope, tearing Hell off it's hinges as an old timer I knew would say.
 
Get yourself a set of corks, suspenders to keep waterlogged trousers up, wool & tin pants for the cold days, and cut your acc off in the rain, tell the skidded man you will have them layed out for him to get easy. I ####in love cutting in rain with a little bit of fog, turning them into lay on a good slope, tearing Hell off it's hinges as an old timer I knew would say.

Yeh, I have always worn corks. I will lay them out good...being as I am the one who will also have to run the choke sets. :rock: As far as the rain, I don't mind cutting in the rain...however no one else on the crew showed up to work today...normally that wouldn't bother me but I didn't want to cut that big set of timber off the side of that hill with no one around...all kinds of stupid stuff can happen when you combine rain, big timber, and steep hill sides. Not to mention a day off ain't bad...I can make it up this weekend, I'm allowed to cut Sundays on this little job. :cheers:
 
gologit, very well said, I couldn't agree more. I been cutting trees over half my life and I learn sumthin every day in the woods. I really enjoy reading about differient tecnuiqes [cant spell] in other parts of the country. we may not always agree on how to do sumthing but we can still learn
from each other.tc I had my first "hitchhiker" of the year two days ago, yea its that time of year.
 
You wear corks? Damn there goes your excuses for dragging ass while running those sticks up. :eek2:

He could still blame it on the caulks since theres what? maybe four or five days between brand new and worn out when the nails are actually the exact right length and do what they're supposed to.

The rest of the time they're too long or too short....picking up too much garbage or too stubby to grip. Some day when I'm rich I'm gonna order custom made spikes worn down to just the right length...and have some kid change them out for me every four or five days. :laugh:
 
You are only allowed to be careful when the logs your walking on are a good distance off the ground.
But Bob, why don't you just engineer some nails that actually work. I swear a coupla year's ago when I first started wearing corks they where a lot better..
 
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