Falling pics 11/25/09

[bustedup]

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Your doing fine bro.


I'd rather swing softwood than hardwood as imo it easier hards pop split and crack easier and quicker than softs do. That maybe just me tho

 

[Rounder]

Hell, I'll air it out right here :hmm3grin2orange:

Going to work skidding in a couple weeks, have known the new boss for a few years now and like him quite a bit. The fam. acted like I told them I was pursuing a career in the heroin business when I told them what was up, and was repeatedly and unsuccessfully bullied and shamed into staying at my current job, it was like a scene from Rudy there for a while. LOL

Good deal Jake. Do me a favor and keep your ears open for any falling jobs up that way.....Wife is doing the telecommuting deal now, so we've got some freedom to move around.....I like it up there.

 

[treeslayer2003]

Your doing fine bro.


I'd rather swing softwood than hardwood as imo it easier hards pop split and crack easier and quicker than softs do. That maybe just me tho

it ain't just you, a lot of hardwood will bust, depends on what kind and where growing. we have both and have to cut according.

 

[bustedup]

it ain't just you, a lot of hardwood will bust, depends on what kind and where growing. we have both and have to cut according.

That so true a statement bro. Ya cut according to what type and species ya cutting as not all behave the same.


Hards imo usually grow every which way but straight lol they side lean back lean have split leads, heavy top wood and head lean and that can be all in the same tree lol.


I guess that's where experience comes in. Judgement and reading the stick.


The pics posted on here by the fallers ya can see that they read the stick etc and also where they gonna lay it down. I guess that's what makes a faller, other things to but experience and knowledge is apparent by the pics.

 

[twochains]

True that! ^^^ I had on last week that was about 2ft stump, right as I was trying to burn the hinge it started wanting to chair a bit and stres cracked real faintly. Well when I went and topped it at the 4th log it just kinda blew all to hell. The seperation on the small end was on the same plane as the stress crack that appeared in the butt. It got me to thinking it was either such a straight grain or a flaw in the grain. That kinda stuff doesn't happen often, so I'm thinking grain flaw.

 

[jrcat]

Hard maple seems to be the toughest of the hard woods I have dealt with and american beech. Maple seems to be able to take one heck of a hard landing maybe thats why more and more baseball bats are being made out of maple. I have never had beech split on me. Aside of those two I have had almost all other species of hardwoods split on me. I had a fair amount of practice cutting wood to feed chippers. I think the worst for splitting is hickory.

 

[bustedup]

True that! ^^^ I had on last week that was about 2ft stump, right as I was trying to burn the hinge it started wanting to chair a bit and stres cracked real faintly. Well when I went and topped it at the 4th log it just kinda blew all to hell. The seperation on the small end was on the same plane as the stress crack that appeared in the butt. It got me to thinking it was either such a straight grain or a flaw in the grain. That kinda stuff doesn't happen often, so I'm thinking grain flaw.

I guessing it was a hardwood? I have had those split right up the centre which does make ya tighten up a bit ......oh and run too

 

[treeslayer2003]

True that! ^^^ I had on last week that was about 2ft stump, right as I was trying to burn the hinge it started wanting to chair a bit and stres cracked real faintly. Well when I went and topped it at the 4th log it just kinda blew all to hell. The seperation on the small end was on the same plane as the stress crack that appeared in the butt. It got me to thinking it was either such a straight grain or a flaw in the grain. That kinda stuff doesn't happen often, so I'm thinking grain flaw.

its a flaw, lots of it in white oak here. the tree grew twisted or in a windy place. cut one today could hear and feel stump cracking while cutting.thats why put in deeper front cut so get through back quikly. if can get um down solid they still stave even tho flawed.yea I stay at the stump long time guess i'm used to it......yea I've seen beech do it to

 

[twochains]

Water oak. Had I have not stayed commited at the first sign of that initial stress crack it would have chaired right up the center. Water oaks can be kinds funny sometimes though. Like a head leaning water oak...they seem to rather be flopped on their side rather than with the lean.

 

[jrcat]

True that! ^^^ I had on last week that was about 2ft stump, right as I was trying to burn the hinge it started wanting to chair a bit and stres cracked real faintly. Well when I went and topped it at the 4th log it just kinda blew all to hell. The seperation on the small end was on the same plane as the stress crack that appeared in the butt. It got me to thinking it was either such a straight grain or a flaw in the grain. That kinda stuff doesn't happen often, so I'm thinking grain flaw.

I have seen old crotches grown right into the stem.. would never have known it was there untill it was cut into and split wide open. I was bucking up an oak and about halfway through the cut it popped. I leave all of my veneer logs at 21' now that you have some room for checking and such.

Black locust will practically explode under certain conditions lol and talk about "grain flaws" that stuff seems to twist and pull and do all sorts of contortions all in a straight stick. just my 2 cents

 

[treeslayer2003]

Water oak. Had I have not stayed commited at the first sign of that initial stress crack it would have chaired right up the center. Water oaks can be kinds funny sometimes though. Like a head leaning water oak...they seem to rather be flopped on their side rather than with the lean.

ain't that sumpin, water oak here is tough. most times can swing the crap outta that n pull wood outta the stump. it won't grade tho strictly matt log.

 

[twochains]

treeslayer2003..dude! I just checked out yer photo album!!! :msp_thumbsup: :hmm3grin2orange:

You need to post them pics on here for more folks to see!! Ultra nice!!! $$$$$$$

 

[treeslayer2003]

I have seen old crotches grown right into the stem.. would never have known it was there untill it was cut into and split wide open. I was bucking up an oak and about halfway through the cut it popped. I leave all of my veneer logs at 21' now that you have some room for checking and such.

Black locust will practically explode under certain conditions lol and talk about "grain flaws" that stuff seems to twist and pull and do all sorts of contortions all in a straight stick. just my 2 cents

locust scarce here. hard as hell, but no grade on it either. been looking for one for posts can't find when ya want it.

 

[bustedup]

All Sticks need reading but Hardwoods especially so usually there more "going on" with them imo.


All sticks can chair and do things ya don't expect but harwoods imo tend to do so more often ....I guess probably due to their growing cycle and habit etc but the foresters will know more bout that

 

[jrcat]

The red oak here will get a seem right up one side, I have heard it reffered to as a "frost crack". I am not really sure what it really is, but even with that defect they will still sell for veneer.

 

[treeslayer2003]

treeslayer2003..dude! I just checked out yer photo album!!! :msp_thumbsup: :hmm3grin2orange:

You need to post them pics on here for more folks to see!! Ultra nice!!! $$$$$$$

thanks man, wish I knew how, took the wife a hour to do that.she did post um some were on saw forum. that was about 3 years ago job.

 

[twochains]

bustedup...one thing for sure... you won't see soft wood split rails....(oh Hell, except for ERC...but they are an entirely different story)

 

[treeslayer2003]

The red oak here will get a seem right up one side, I have heard it reffered to as a "frost crack". I am not really sure what it really is, but even with that defect they will still sell for veneer.

I've heard that called frost swell. they still sell 3 sides clear.

 

[jrcat]

treeslayer2003..dude! I just checked out yer photo album!!! :msp_thumbsup: :hmm3grin2orange:

You need to post them pics on here for more folks to see!! Ultra nice!!! $$$$$$$

Yeah he does!!! lol

locust scarce here. hard as hell, but no grade on it either. been looking for one for posts can't find when ya want it.

you want some.......come up here and get it all 3 million feet of it lol

 

[twochains]

thanks man, wish I knew how, took the wife a hour to do that.she did post um some were on saw forum. that was about 3 years ago job.

upload them to photo bucket and use the insert image icon on the AS site