Falling pics 11/25/09

[jrcat]

just some teeny tiny hemlocks, allot of work for not much wood, did get one saw log out of most of em though. I can see where a processor is a good thing barely, and grudgingly...

The amish in my area would be tripping over each other for those "tiny" hemlock lol.

 

[treeslayer2003]

just some teeny tiny hemlocks, allot of work for not much wood, did get one saw log out of most of em though. I can see where a processor is a good thing barely, and grudgingly...

work is work nm, I wish could cut big trees all the time but work pays bills

 

[jrcat]

My next job only averages 18" on the stump but like Treeslayer said ...it pays the bills. I hate how they knock the grade down on the smaller timber but yet the veneer buyers say they like smaller timber. Their ideal log is in the 18'' to 22" on the butt range. I do understand that soft wood is a totally different market though.

 

[treeslayer2003]

My next job only averages 18" on the stump but like Treeslayer said ...it pays the bills. I hate how they knock the grade down on the smaller timber but yet the veneer buyers say they like smaller timber. Their ideal log is in the 18'' to 22" on the butt range. I do understand that soft wood is a totally different market though.

if ya notice, most smaller trees are cleaner, prob is very little feet in um

 

[jrcat]

if ya notice, most smaller trees are cleaner, prob is very little feet in um

Thats what the buyer from webber told me .... and he said that big logs have to much to hide.

 

[treeslayer2003]

Thats what the buyer from webber told me .... and he said that big logs have to much to hide.

thing with big poplar my buyer will export um even with a small blem smaller ones just won't export

 

[jrcat]

With the small blem that would be considered 3 sided ?

 

[treeslayer2003]

With the small blem that would be considered 3 sided ?

pretty much, seems like the bigger they are the less picky

 

[jrcat]

I am still learning, but there is so much to learn and keep track of.

 

[treeslayer2003]

I am still learning, but there is so much to learn and keep track of.

any time I think I got it all figured out, they change summin up

 

[tramp bushler]

I put in my first soft dutchman today to swing a pine tree! I honestly can't believe just how well it worked! Such a simple principle and very effective! I swung that dude 180* to fall in line with the rest of the set. Now I can't wait to find another victim to try it on! I was watching it while making the swing, super awesome to see the compression work to the advantage of the swing!

We already have a Tarzan on here so you can't be swinging thru the trees .
I think what yall call a soft dutchman I call a kerf dutchman . Mix a kerf dutchman or 2 or 2 or 3 with a siszwheel and you can Really walk them way around.

 

[tramp bushler]

But dutchmen are tricky guys. They'll sit on ya, kill ya dead and smash your saw. I've smashed 2 saws misjudging trees and putting dutchmen in where they shouldn't have been.. it happens sometimes when you get tired. . But I've used dutchy on many thousand other trees quite successfully
So my average is really pretty good. opcorn:

 

[roberte]

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Dead head Alder, yesterdays at the house project

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Notice the hole in the trunk, bowling ball size. The head and side lean were towards the property line/corner.

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From the rear out towards my shot. After sounding the trunk with my axe, and peeling bark, a lot more rot was exposed, of course this was were any wedging would take place. So I reexamined my cuts and changed up, wrapped it with a choker about 12 feet up, looked to be about the most solid location.

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Decided to high stump about 12" above the hole and 6' off the ground and faced it. It didn't take long for dark, wet, red chips to start coming out. A friend was in the truck and I back cut it.

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It went pretty much the way I planned it out, (I had been studying this one for a while) and made a great bonfire last night. The stump was 24" x 29".

 

[treeslayer2003]

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Dead head Alder, yesterdays at the house project

View attachment 295008
Notice the hole in the trunk, bowling ball size. The head and side lean were towards the property line/corner.

View attachment 295010
From the rear out towards my shot. After sounding the trunk with my axe, and peeling bark, a lot more rot was exposed, of course this was were any wedging would take place. So I reexamined my cuts and changed up, wrapped it with a choker about 12 feet up, looked to be about the most solid location.

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Decided to high stump about 12" above the hole and 6' off the ground and faced it. It didn't take long for dark, wet, red chips to start coming out. A friend was in the truck and I back cut it.

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It went pretty much the way I planned it out, (I had been studying this one for a while) and made a great bonfire last night. The stump was 24" x 29".

great job man, I hate cutting yard trees, but you got her done

 

[forestryworks]

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if I did this right, here are some falling pics. right wrong comments name of cut? watcha think

sorry last pic didn't come thru. still learning new fangled tec stuff

Conventional face cut. Watch your far side and don't cut it off, unless you have a specific reason to do so. Use the gunning sights on the saw if you ain't.

But the sight of that thick leaf litter and no herbaceous understory makes me cringe! Looks like that area in the pics haven't burned in 40+ years, based on the fire ecology stuff I've been reading for your neck of the woods. :bang:

 

[bustedup]

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Dead head Alder, yesterdays at the house project

View attachment 295008
Notice the hole in the trunk, bowling ball size. The head and side lean were towards the property line/corner.

View attachment 295010
From the rear out towards my shot. After sounding the trunk with my axe, and peeling bark, a lot more rot was exposed, of course this was were any wedging would take place. So I reexamined my cuts and changed up, wrapped it with a choker about 12 feet up, looked to be about the most solid location.

View attachment 295014
Decided to high stump about 12" above the hole and 6' off the ground and faced it. It didn't take long for dark, wet, red chips to start coming out. A friend was in the truck and I back cut it.

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It went pretty much the way I planned it out, (I had been studying this one for a while) and made a great bonfire last night. The stump was 24" x 29".

Nasty one bro good job

 

[twochains]

But dutchmen are tricky guys. They'll sit on ya, kill ya dead and smash your saw. I've smashed 2 saws misjudging trees and putting dutchmen in where they shouldn't have been.. it happens sometimes when you get tired. . But I've used dutchy on many thousand other trees quite successfully
So my average is really pretty good. opcorn:

Even though I was successful with the drop...there was something I didn't admit... I made the swing over my head instead of away from me. I was cutting on the other side of the tree that I would normally cut from. The tree was leaning up hill and across the hill to the right. So from where I was cutting, the tree swung down hill sweeping to the right...which was over my head after I sat down and was thinking how to replicate this cut and what the scenario would have to be. Had I of been on my normal side, the tree would have swung away from me. Had the cut have failed...I might have had to do some fancy foot work...like real quick type stuff. Had the cut failed half swing and side hilled itself, from where I was standing...even if i dodged the fall, the butt more than likely would have jumped and swung down the hill when the top hit due to having cut everything down around this tree to it's right.

 

[bitzer]

Tramp-I'd call this a soft dutch. Multiple kerfs. A regular or just a plain ole dutchman is one kerf. I stole the soft dutch from Jack aka hotsaws101 on youtube. So that's from your neck of the woods.

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[bitzer]

Even though I was successful with the drop...there was something I didn't admit... I made the swing over my head instead of away from me. I was cutting on the other side of the tree that I would normally cut from. The tree was leaning up hill and across the hill to the right. So from where I was cutting, the tree swung down hill sweeping to the right...which was over my head after I sat down and was thinking how to replicate this cut and what the scenario would have to be. Had I of been on my normal side, the tree would have swung away from me. Had the cut have failed...I might have had to do some fancy foot work...like real quick type stuff. Had the cut failed half swing and side hilled itself, from where I was standing...even if i dodged the fall, the butt more than likely would have jumped and swung down the hill when the top hit due to having cut everything down around this tree to it's right.

I wouldn't do that #### again.

 

[twochains]

Tramp-I'd call this a soft dutch. Multiple kerfs. A regular or just a plain ole dutchman is one kerf. I stole the soft dutch from Jack aka hotsaws101 on youtube. So that's from your neck of the woods.

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bitzer, that is the vid I was trying to think of. That's where I got my idea. Yeh, I won't let that mistake happen again.