Falling pics 11/25/09

[treeslayer2003]

Conventional face cut. Watch your far side and don't cut it off, unless you have a specific reason to do so. Use the gunning sights on the saw if you ain't.

But the sight of that thick leaf litter and no herbaceous understory makes me cringe! Looks like that area in the pics haven't burned in 40+ years, based on the fire ecology stuff I've been reading for your neck of the woods. :bang:

yea, on the pine with half a hinge, I wanted it to pull to the right some. leave trees are important on this sight as I must leave 70% canopy. I think forester called it fids. that might be wrong don't quot me. really only about a inch or so leaf litter, really thats not much here. little under brush because of canopy and deer, lotta beech here witch is why I hate this rule. if could cut 50-60% like dad did on this same site 27 years ago, beech would be gone so poplar and oak could reforest.
this rule is not beneficial to forestry imo tho I can agree these sites should never be clear cut.

on the pine I wondered if ya'll called that cut any name. leaving one side of hinge

not much fire here like other parts, i'm on the eastern shore its pretty wet much of the time

 

[treeslayer2003]

Tramp-I'd call this a soft dutch. Multiple kerfs. A regular or just a plain ole dutchman is one kerf. I stole the soft dutch from Jack aka hotsaws101 on youtube. So that's from your neck of the woods.

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i'm cornfused again, thought that was a siswheel with all them cuts.got any more pics?

 

[strangersfaces]

i'm cornfused again, thought that was a siswheel with all them cuts.got any more pics?

Post and pics by bitzer, 3/17/13 showing example of Siswheel

 

[lumberjack48]

Heres a picture of a W-Pine i fell some 30 yrs ago, this block had a lot of nice pine, a few twice as big as this one. Yeh thats a 70 Plus Partner, pretty good saw.

 

[treeslayer2003]

Post and pics by bitzer, 3/17/13 showing example of Siswheel

thank you sf, I got it now. that is weird, would not expect tree to move right with that. I won't be trying that without seeing a lot more of it. but at least now I know what it is. thanks

if that's a ash ours are deffinatly a different spieces

 

[treeslayer2003]

Heres a picture of a W-Pine i fell some 30 yrs ago, this block had a lot of nice pine, a few twice as big as this one. Yeh thats a 70 Plus Partner, pretty good saw.

looks like good work

 

[B-Edwards]

I used to cut right-of-way for the power company so I got to cuts lots of trees, Dad had a sawmill so I got to off-barr (dunno if thats spelled right) Off-bare ,off-bear ,off-,,,, heck I dont know . What I do know is I had to work my ass off moving slabs and packing green heavy lumber.

I remember climbing a big Oak one day cant remember what kind but as I was hooking it (as we did all trees then) (later became an Arborist, certified that is ). Anyway as I was hooking up this big tree I could hear hissing , like a tire leaking air, the sound was coming from where my spikes where piercing the cambium. It stunk like crap also. None of this was milled by us so I dont know if shaken or not but the smell stayed with you.

I've also done a few notches where all of the sudden my foot ,leg would be soaked by the cankered water running out .


Funny what you remember, hate and miss.

I don't guess I know what you mean about recognizing "shake" in the face. I can recognize shake right off the bat by the smell. Having an extensive career in sawmilling as a head sawyer I can smell shake before the first slab rolls off, and way before you see it's presence in lumber.

Are you talking about smelling it when you make your face cut? I'm not arguing, I am just trying to grasp what you are saying. Thanks

 

[tramp bushler]

Heres a picture of a W-Pine i fell some 30 yrs ago, this block had a lot of nice pine, a few twice as big as this one. Yeh thats a 70 Plus Partner, pretty good saw.

Seeing that Partner brought back a lot of memories. . I used to run the 60-70 CC Partners in Maine. They were great saws in the winter. Vapor lockin @#$%&*-+?/;:'"!&%$#@ in the summer. They were the first saws I ever saw with heated handle bars. And had good anti vibe. . They were good strong saws

 

[tramp bushler]

Tramp-I'd call this a soft dutch. Multiple kerfs. A regular or just a plain ole dutchman is one kerf. I stole the soft dutch from Jack aka hotsaws101 on youtube. So that's from your neck of the woods.

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With these I stop the cuts in steps of 4-8" What that does is keeps the tree moving as it continues to sit down onto the next step. It's best to keep the tree moving once it starts. . Up here anyway.
That's why I use siszwheels .

For those new to siszwheel swing cuts. They aren't really a free lunch. . They can and do pull part of the stump and roots. So once things are set up and moving you gotta get outa Dodge right now.

T.C. a full wrap handle really helps safe accurate falling. ESPECIALLY on steep ground. Honestly its very important . Half wrap will get you by on flat ground. But when you can only safely be on 1 side of the tree. You need to be able to use the bottom of the bar for most of your cuts, 95% .

 

[RandyMac]

Wet sawing.

Falling Old Growth Redwood - YouTube

 

[treeslayer2003]

With these I stop the cuts in steps of 4-8" What that does is keeps the tree moving as it continues to sit down onto the next step. It's best to keep the tree moving once it starts. . Up here anyway.
That's why I use siszwheels .

For those new to siszwheel swing cuts. They aren't really a free lunch. . They can and do pull part of the stump and roots. So once things are set up and moving you gotta get outa Dodge right now.

T.C. a full wrap handle really helps safe accurate falling. ESPECIALLY on steep ground. Honestly its very important . Half wrap will get you by on flat ground. But when you can only safely be on 1 side of the tree. You need to be able to use the bottom of the bar for most of your cuts, 95% .

yup,i just got a three quarter wrap 461. its different but certainly better for turning saw over.
had to order from out west tho.

 

[jrcat]

Awesome video Randy. I think I am going to order a 3/4 wrap for my 372.

 

[tramp bushler]

Getting pissed on by a tree is pretty common when falling on the coast.

 

[tramp bushler]

Awesome video Randy. I think I am going to order a 3/4 wrap for my 372.

The Weber is the best wrap for the Stihl. I haven't seen one for the 372 yet. I prefer the full wrap to the 3/4 wrap. Safer/ better. I like the Husky factory full wrap.

 

[treeslayer2003]

Getting pissed on by a tree is pretty common when falling on the coast.

yea, here too. mostly red oak and sweet gum


first wrap ever for me, just don't see um here. ordered this one from west coast.

 

[twochains]

treeslayer, can you put up a pic of your wrap handle?

 

[treeslayer2003]

treeslayer, can you put up a pic of your wrap handle?

i'm on it

 

[treeslayer2003]

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ask, and ye shall receive

 

[twochains]

Oh Hell yeah!! That's what I need! Where did ya find it? Did you say that is a 3/4 wrap? Thanks for the pic!

 

[treeslayer2003]

Oh Hell yeah!! That's what I need! Where did ya find it? Did you say that is a 3/4 wrap? Thanks for the pic!

my log buyer, he's a dealer also. he didn't even know about the r saws, I learned that here.

when you order, tell them you want a r and tell um you want the wide tip bar, you'll like it more.
they are a different part no. I swear they oil better mo
yea a 3/4 wrap