Falling pics 11/25/09

[roberte]

Good work there Bitzer

 

[HuskStihl]

And it does sound good. For a Husky. :msp_biggrin:

I made an mp3 of that saw cutting and play it on repeat when I'm sleeping. Kinda like baby Mozart, and it nicely drowns out the wife's snoring

 

[bustedup]

I made an mp3 of that saw cutting and play it on repeat when I'm sleeping. Kinda like baby Mozart, and it nicely drowns out the wife's snoring

buy a clothes peg lol

 

[bitzer]

He runs that saw the way it should be run. Listen to it again...he get's every bit of work out of that saw that he can without ramming and jamming and beating the hell out of it. He's letting it run free and letting it eat...not forcing it. That's the way a saw should be run.
He's getting some wood on the ground with a minimum of fuss and very little wasted motion...and he's not killing his saw doing it.

And it does sound good. For a Husky. :msp_biggrin:

Thank you Bob! If the saw shop in town sold big Stihls I'd be tossing a 660 around. Tough to beat having your saw shop only five minutes from the house. I'm on a first name basis with those guys now. Like when I call in and say this is Bob, they know who it is right away. Its the kind of shop that has big two mans up on display as decorations. There is a Stihl dealer in town, but their big saw is a 361. I'd get lost in the shuffle over there pretty quickly too.

 

[bitzer]

Well hell Bitz! You waz bushelin'!!

On the dutch you threw in, ya might try it like old Ron showed me to see if ya like it?

Cut in past your gun until the tree sits a bit. . . Power out to keep the kerf clean of chips. Cut your face in. Now, start sawing up the back but favor the dutch side a little to encourage that initial momentum you need, and keep sawing to keep it going. Then a fella can blip his way more into the hold-side with the trigger, to saw it up as it swings.

If that makes sense?

Thank you Nate! That's funny you mention that about the dutch. I thought I might get busted out on it. In these woods with so much heart rot I've been making sure I have a clean face to work with. I've been burned by putting my dutch in first when cutting in a similar woods. Otherwise, yeah its a lot faster to put your dutch in first and then bring it around to the gun. I also noticed when I had to bust my faces out(rusty) that I typically get my saw started in the back cut before I take my ax out, but instead put the saw on the ground in the video. The less the saw leaves the hands or the wood the more money you make. Its funny how a guy will do stupid or unusual stuff with a camera rolling even though no one ever has to see it. Another thing about those red oaks, they always have a lean. At least around here. Staying on the throttle and knowing when to let them move is key with them. If they are headed in the right direction let em go. They break off easily up here. It can be easy to ask to much of them. Thanks again!

 

[HuskStihl]

Speaking of 390's in capable hands, at what point do we need to send a search party out looking for the TB?

 

[northmanlogging]

here's a couple from today. One of is from dumping three stems at once... looking back before bucking the only good one up.

The other is for all the whiners that say you cant cut hard wood with a 32" bar on a 461. As a side note walked this one around about 150-180 degreas from its lean...

 

[bitzer]

No one said it can't be done. Just slow as #### if that's what you're cutting all day.

 

[northmanlogging]

Slow... I didn't think it was all that slow... took a little longer then the hemlock and spruce I've been playing with but not like I was falling asleep with the saw in my hands are anything, reading a book during the back cut, practicing A.S.L. on the face...

 

[bitzer]

That's one tree. Try that day after day on every tree. Hell I've run a 36" bar full comp on a 440/460bb. Its slow.

 

[northmanlogging]

Yeah If had to cut this size hardwood everyday I might move up to a 660, But to me its not worth the extra weight and cost, that and I'd go and try to run a 36-48" bar on a 660... you know losing all the gains over the 460-461...

 

[RandyMac]

Yeah If had to cut this size hardwood everyday I might move up to a 660, But to me its not worth the extra weight and cost, that and I'd go and try to run a 36-48" bar on a 660... you know losing all the gains over the 460-461...

ya daisy, go six cubes

 

[northmanlogging]

If I stop punching holes in skidder tires the and make some decent money this year, I plan on getting an 880... I don't really need one, its just, MORE POWER!!!:msp_w00t:

 

[bitzer]

Yeah them ####ing skidder tires aren't cheap. Mine are around 3 grand with the mounting. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do. My new 390 turned into a rebuilt fuel inj pump. ####### ####ing machines are worse than a woman. Always needing something.

 

[Trx250r180]

Yeah If had to cut this size hardwood everyday I might move up to a 660, But to me its not worth the extra weight and cost, that and I'd go and try to run a 36-48" bar on a 660... you know losing all the gains over the 460-461...

my 461 is ported ,i haven't found a tree it wont cut yet ,in a 30 inch round of fir its about 5-7 seconds faster in a cut than my 440 hybrid or ported 460 ,it feels faster than my 660 with 32 inch bar also ,the 660 is off being ported right now ,i will have to see how they do once its back ,i still don't think its worth packing the extra weight around though the 461 is a real good saw

 

[northmanlogging]

Yeah them ####ing skidder tires aren't cheap. Mine are around 3 grand with the mounting. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do. My new 390 turned into a rebuilt fuel inj pump. ####### ####ing machines are worse than a woman. Always needing something.

I'm looking at 14-1800 a tire or more, plus mount. There is an outfit in ever-rot that says they might be able to fix it for around 200. There the same shop I got a quote for retreads at around 800 a tire. I'm gonna cross my fingers and hope its fixable, not sure I could afford a new tire right now:msp_unsure:

 

[treeslayer2003]

I'm looking at 14-1800 a tire or more, plus mount. There is an outfit in ever-rot that says they might be able to fix it for around 200. There the same shop I got a quote for retreads at around 800 a tire. I'm gonna cross my fingers and hope its fixable, not sure I could afford a new tire right now:msp_unsure:

nm, I've been thro that before looks like it could be fixed with a boot and new tube. tire guys don't like it, but a temp fix till ya can do better........they 18.4x26 right don't see them much any more. I sure wish could still get reliner [flap] that would perma fix lotta tires. how can ya put a new one on same axle with a 50%, good way tear up a rear. rather fix a 50% to run with it.

 

[lumberjack48]

Good video bitzer, felling and bucking with the 390. That 390 sounds and cuts like the 034 Supers i fell with for years. I loved tipping timber with the 034, impressed me everyday i used it. I fell tree length for two skidders day after day with one, 8 to 12 tanks of gas a day.

I ran recaps 35 yrs ago on a C5 cable skidder with no issues.

 

[treeslayer2003]

Good video bitzer, felling and bucking with the 390. That 390 sounds and cuts like the 034 Supers i fell with for years. I loved tipping timber with the 034, impressed me everyday i used it. I fell tree length for two skidders day after day with one, 8 to 12 tanks of gas a day.

I ran recaps 35 yrs ago on a C5 cable skidder with no issues.

lj, I never heard a caped skidder tires, but I gonna ask ma tire dealer when I see him

 

[Metals406]

I'm looking at 14-1800 a tire or more, plus mount. There is an outfit in ever-rot that says they might be able to fix it for around 200. There the same shop I got a quote for retreads at around 800 a tire. I'm gonna cross my fingers and hope its fixable, not sure I could afford a new tire right now:msp_unsure:

Find someone to give you a deal on foam fill!