Falling pics 11/25/09

[hammerlogging]

I play with saws more than work, and I generally advise people to run what they like, but one thing I have noticed about bigger saws:
Of course, I have way to much raw machismo to own a 70cc saw, but there's prolly almost a 2hp difference between the stock 385 and ported 394. I agree with the "smaller" men that with a sharp chain and the 28" there's not much difference in pine (I think that will change with the 8pin I'm putting on the 394 as soon as it breaks in some more). However as soon as that "fresh chain happy feeling" fades after an hour or so, the 394 doesn't lose nearly as much speed as the 385. I realize this prolly applies to amateurs more as you guys sharpen on the job. I bring both saws with me sharp and grab the second one when the first one gets dull. My role in this "debate" in both instigatorial and provocatorial roles is officially at an end

Its a fair concept. I've always considered that a 460 makes a faller higher skilled, but once you take that skill set and put it on a 660, then the faller will rip that much harder. I'm curious about that earler 461 comment though, and will keep listening.

 

[northmanlogging]

Man I wish I could get a forester on my side... All the local outfits either work for the big timber companies the mills or private consults...

Oh yeah and none of them return phone calls...

I have to admit I am kinda on the outside trying to break in. No contacts to speak of and no name to be recognized by. Thats ok I got hard knuckles and a harder head. Every year I get a little busier...

I did contact an outfit looking for contract loggers a few weeks ago, we'll see what happens.

 

[treeslayer2003]

We did a lot of cutting just like bitzer is doing. We also got to cut the stands again later. But then the forester our company had worked with for 25 plus years left and all those nice stands went to other crews.

that sucs d, I hate favertism, it goes on here to an extent.

Yeah I know. I have cut some decent stands it just gets old sometimes when your cutting the junk more often. That and going from a big timber, log only job to a small timber, pulp job is quite a shock to the system.

yes it is. I been spoiled this year, I know i'm gonna havta cut little wood again someday.

Its a fair concept. I've always considered that a 460 makes a faller higher skilled, but once you take that skill set and put it on a 660, then the faller will rip that much harder. I'm curious about that earler 461 comment though, and will keep listening.

I have 460s 660s and a 461. the 461 is in between the 460 and 660. it is a very good saw, reminds me of a 064.

 

[twochains]

Just a video I shot this morning falling some oak I found down in a draw. I had to get the first tree on the ground before I did much else so I put it on the video also. :msp_smile:

twochains vid...opcorn:

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[Trx250r180]

where"s the Mud ?

 

[twochains]

where"s the Mud ?

We ain't got no stinkin' MUD! (nice grammar right there )

 

[twochains]

Fell this one 1/4 up hill and had a narrow gap to fall the tree into w/o jacking up a bunch of young timber. This is the vid where I busted my ass vacating the stump! LOL! opcorn:


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[HuskStihl]

Nice looking work Clint. Fast but unhurried

 

[HuskStihl]

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[HuskStihl]

Misjudged the lean

Belly lean back, top lean forward, most of the top gone from a hurricane. Thought it would go forwards but had to convince it the hard way

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[tramp bushler]

Looks good Jon. In that you hit your lay. . . As a general rule, conifers go toward their belly.

Do you know what you did wrong. Aside from no riggin pants and spenders?? Or chaps? Or waiting to flip the screen down on your hard hat. ?? . Chain seems to be cutting OK.

 

[tramp bushler]

Fell this one 1/4 up hill and had a narrow gap to fall the tree into w/o jacking up a bunch of young timber. This is the vid where I busted my ass vacating the stump! LOL! opcorn:


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Looks good Clint. ! Nice new bar.

 

[tramp bushler]

First time I've been able to get on here in days. Kept getting redirected to link bucks.

 

[HuskStihl]

Looks good Jon. In that you hit your lay. . . As a general rule, conifers go toward their belly.

Do you know what you did wrong. Aside from no riggin pants and spenders?? Or chaps? Or waiting to flip the screen down on your hard hat. ?? . Chain seems to be cutting OK.

What I did wrong? Hmmm prolly need to categorize..

Saw technique: some hitchhiking, chain too loose, can't match cuts, but have figured out its much easier to take too little and hit the far corner on a second, cut if needed, than overshooting and boring/chunking out the face. Did the same thing on the back cut, but realized I had ####ed it up as soon as I got thru the bark so hopefully no harm done (I'm gonna install a level on my saw somewhere

Falling technique: I'm happy with how the face turned out, but I misread the lean. I made the backcut way too high, which turned out to be lucky as I figured the extra hinge wood may have helped me not break the hinge and lose it backwards with the bashing.

Preparation: took the rakers down too low, very grabby. Only had 2 wedges, cause it was leaning forward . I was gonna palm one in to help me see movement, but wound up having the tree finally go with the last hit on the last wedge before it disappeared. Glad I took off the bark or I'd have been SOL

I did spend a lot of time looking up, especially in the back cut.

Appreciate it Glen

 

[JakeG]

Fell this one 1/4 up hill and had a narrow gap to fall the tree into w/o jacking up a bunch of young timber. This is the vid where I busted my ass vacating the stump! LOL! opcorn:


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Clint, despite that slip being incredibly dangerous.. I'm laughing with you lol. I feel bad cause that could have ended badly, but you laughed first!

 

[JakeG]

Jon, you looked more comfortable in that video compared to your others.. and I'm not talking about your attire cause that hasn't changed one bit lol! The chain tension scared me a few times, no overcuts on the face... it went pretty well overall. This forum seems to be helping you as it does me.

 

[HuskStihl]

Jon, you looked more comfortable in that video compared to your others.. and I'm not talking about your attire cause that hasn't changed one bit lol! The chain tension scared me a few times, no overcuts on the face... it went pretty well overall. This forum seems to be helping you as it does me.

Thanks Jake. The 394 with the 42" is a chain tension PITA. If I ran that more than a few times a year I'd get Stihl chain. People ##### about inboard/outboard clutches, that chain tensioner sux

 

[northmanlogging]

Looked good husk, that saw looked bigger than you timber wtf lol omg yolo ikr... and other stuff I never use...

 

[HuskStihl]

Looked good husk, that saw looked bigger than you timber wtf lol omg yolo ikr... and other stuff I never use...

It is just so rare that I am not running at top speed and screaming when a tree starts falling. I couldn't help a little "timber, Northman". I put on the 42 cause I misremembered the tree being bigger than it was. The saw, full, with the 42 is probably over 30lbs. I go about 175 (with the socks tucked in) so not an insignificant percantage of my weight, and there is absolutely no way I could "bushel" with that setup, but I'm still gonna call allay'all pussies for carrying 70cc saws

 

[JakeG]

It is just so rare that I am not running at top speed and screaming when a tree starts falling. I couldn't help a little "timber, Northman". I put on the 42 cause I misremembered the tree being bigger than it was. The saw, full, with the 42 is probably over 30lbs. I go about 175 (with the socks tucked in) so not an insignificant percantage of my weight, and there is absolutely no way I could "bushel" with that setup, but I'm still gonna call allay'all pussies for carrying 70cc saws

Lmao Jon...

Honestly you handled the saw like it was a 70cc. Guess that says something for the shape you're in... Must be nice being free, white and 21!