HuskStihl
Chairin'em for the sound
I do like me some runnin' n' screamin'!
Falling pics 11/25/09
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Metals406
Granfodder Runningsaw
And was the temperature below freezing? I have a theory that alder will "pop" quicker during cold temps.
HuskStihl
Chairin'em for the sound
Guys, he prolly did it for the sound!
I don't think so. Alder is a scary tree because of its tendency to barber chair. From what I understand, a deeper face cut is a good thing for alder. I've got a few smaller ones to kill but I'm waiting for warmer temps.
HuskStihl
Chairin'em for the sound
Ms. P, I was just joking, only RandyMac chairs trees just for the sound!
1270d
ArboristSite Guru
I know you left coasters look down pretty hard at boring, but wouldn't it work well on your alder?
bitzer
******** Timber Expert
Thanks Mike and Jon! Yeah there is about one pulp stick per top. If that. I'm trying to perfect busting the **** out of the top so I can't take any pulp out of it, yet saving out the last log.
Honestly I'd love to cut one of yer big bad alders of the pnw! Can't imagine it chairs any easier than hickory or white oak.
Timber absolutely behaves differently at colder temps. The wood breaks off more easily for sure.
Honestly I'd love to cut one of yer big bad alders of the pnw! Can't imagine it chairs any easier than hickory or white oak.
Timber absolutely behaves differently at colder temps. The wood breaks off more easily for sure.
It did on the ONE that I tried it on. I'm not a faller and was merely clearing that snow bent stuff. I found I could do a Coos Bay on the smaller stuff which also worked the very few times. I know this is controversial, but a long bar is a good thing at such times.
I believe Cedar Kerf enlightened me to the necessity of making a deeper face cut in alder. It is our soft hardwood.
Steep and deep with alder,
I've tried both the coos and swedish stump dance, the coos works 90% of the time, and when they do chair its usually just a little split a few feet up.
With bore cutting, you have to leave to much hold/hinge wood, otherwise the damn things crush it and pinch your bar, then that razor sharp wedge beater of mine comes into play, but since you have to leave so much hold wood, you run the risk of chairing the bastard anyway.
Alders pretty much all lean hard, and a cub scout can split it with a sharp hatchet... They can be most entertaining.
I've tried both the coos and swedish stump dance, the coos works 90% of the time, and when they do chair its usually just a little split a few feet up.
With bore cutting, you have to leave to much hold/hinge wood, otherwise the damn things crush it and pinch your bar, then that razor sharp wedge beater of mine comes into play, but since you have to leave so much hold wood, you run the risk of chairing the bastard anyway.
Alders pretty much all lean hard, and a cub scout can split it with a sharp hatchet... They can be most entertaining.
IcePick
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Yeah, that was kind of him to pick a nice one. For every good one there's a questionable one. I'm less hard on myself for ugly stumps now. I'd rather have an ugly one that falls properly than a nice one that is off and smashes some nice saplings.
HuskStihl
Chairin'em for the sound
IP if I ever make a stump that nice, and mind you I'm not holding my breath, I'm gonna flush cut it, take it home, and varnish the sucker! By next summer I'm betting your stumps will mostly all look like that
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treeslayer2003
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that's right IP. besides it the log you want not the stump lol.
twochains
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treeslayer2003
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you like that punkin saw huh? lol. pretty old pine for there huh? are the old ones down there normally star hearted or just this one? nice swing, I see your style evolving. mine did too.
twochains
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I figure the heart looked like that from whatever was wrong with the uphill side of the tree. IDK though, IDK how to judge age, if I was judging age by size I would think it was middle of the road. The biggest I have cut off this place was 3ft +. My boss tried to buy this timber 25 years ago and he said it hasn't grown much since then. The stumps here are cross cut but I wouldn't really call this set all that old. Dang Mike, I haven't really ever payed any attention to the hearts...what can you tell me about what you saw?
treeslayer2003
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I was thinkin lightening cuz it looked to be hard. here we can get red heart in old ones or in real wet ground but they be softer in the heart. I have seen star heart that is hard in trees that otherwise look good on the outside.......now where are the forresters?
Metals406
Granfodder Runningsaw
Hey Clint. . . Next time on that swing (on the backcut)-- saw the far side up more first & leave more on the near side. What it does, is let's the tree start to settle into the kerf -- & that's what initiates your swing. Ya gotta be quick though, cause as it rolls it can sit on your bar. And you need to keep sawing the near side to keep the momentum going. You can soften it up with a couple extra kerfs below your first one on that far side too.
Hope this makes sense. LOL
Hope this makes sense. LOL
twochains
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Yep! That makes sense! Thanks N8! Yeh if I set up a kerf Dutchman I don't cut that heavy side so it comes in a crushes the kerfs. It's just a different cut I picked up from my boss, been working on it a few days to get it just right. I like the kerf Dutchman just fine and use it pretty regularly.
Hey it's the new year....ya got ne dawgs N8??? I want some for the 372 pretty bad, those stock ones are worse than the Stihl short dawg. Soot me a price on those flames! LOL!
Metals406
Granfodder Runningsaw
Werking on a few, including fixing the bugs on the 372 ones. 
Hopefully be cut soon.
Hopefully be cut soon.
