Falling pics 11/25/09

[hammerlogging]

for you westies

bore an open face

bore a humboldt (it can happen....just when you have to)

different trees, different ground, different cuts. Se la vie.

 

[bitzer]

Good pics Hammer! I'm gettin excited for snow on the ground now. 90+ and 90% humidity again today.

 

[Cedarkerf]

Good pics Hammer! I'm gettin excited for snow on the ground now. 90+ and 90% humidity again today.

56 degrees wet and gray here yesterday and today survived a mild summer looks like falls setting in out here yeaa.

 

[RandyMac]

It is definately headed for Fall, we have sunshine, only see it in the Fall.

 

[Marc]

bore an open face


bore a humboldt (it can happen....just when you have to)


different trees, different ground, different cuts. Se la vie.

Just a question from a curious amateur trying to learn from the pros in here, why such a small angle on that second notch and why cut so high? Thanks in advance.

 

[Jacob J.]

Just a question from a curious amateur trying to learn from the pros in here, why such a small angle on that second notch and why cut so high? Thanks in advance.

There was a family of squirrels in the stump he was trying to save.

 

[forestryworks]

Just a question from a curious amateur trying to learn from the pros in here, why such a small angle on that second notch and why cut so high? Thanks in advance.

Could be lots of butt rot in that stand, or some other defect on the stump, hence a higher cut.

As for the face, he probably wanted it to close soon and break the hinge early to get the crown to roll out off other trees or something along those lines.

 

[hammerlogging]

Could be lots of butt rot in that stand, or some other defect on the stump, hence a higher cut.

As for the face, he probably wanted it to close soon and break the hinge early to get the crown to roll out off other trees or something along those lines.

Sure you weren't there??? Exactly.

 

[Marc]

Sure you weren't there??? Exactly.

Ah, makes sense.

You mentioned he was bore cutting behind the hinge. Was there concern of barber chair on this one especially with the close face?

One reason I ask is the one time I had a tree chair I was cutting, it was also a red oak (around 30" on the stump). It had heavy head lean and basically the entire crown over the same side as well which obviously contributed, and my hinge wood was probably a little thick as well; but it split as soon as the face closed, and I've been mindful of that incident ever since.

And thanks again for the explanations, I don't want to sidetrack the thread too much, but the knowledge is invaluable for me.

 

[Jacob J.]

You can make your back cut lower than the horizontal cut on your face with heavy head leaners to keep them from splitting. You can also bore the heart or snip the sapwood depending on what species it is. I haven't cut much of the east coast hardwoods but here it's common to cut the sapwood off the sides of the holding wood in large Spruce that have heart rot.

 

[Marc]

You can make your back cut lower than the horizontal cut on your face with heavy head leaners to keep them from splitting. You can also bore the heart or snip the sapwood depending on what species it is. I haven't cut much of the east coast hardwoods but here it's common to cut the sapwood off the sides of the holding wood in large Spruce that have heart rot.

Yeah, the red oak that chaired on me was almost all heart wood (like in hammerlogging's pictures), and I probably should have bored the heart wood out. Or chained it. Or one of a few other things that would have prevented it. Thanks for the tip about the back cut placement. The more techniques I hear from different people, the more I'm amazed at just how much there is to know.

 

[Marc]

As long as I'm talkin everyone's ear off, maybe I can contribute.

I'm very obviously not a pro, but they're falling pictures anyhow. Just cut fencelines for firewood and take down trees for people if they're away from anything that'd get me in trouble (house, power, whatever).

This is close to the biggest tree I've cut... a white ash about 42" on the stump with a 24" bar on my 372.

Stump... not my best, but not my worst either.

 

[ChainsawmanXX]

You can make your back cut lower than the horizontal cut on your face with heavy head leaners to keep them from splitting. You can also bore the heart or snip the sapwood depending on what species it is. I haven't cut much of the east coast hardwoods but here it's common to cut the sapwood off the sides of the holding wood in large Spruce that have heart rot.

On heavy learners, I always like to make my chip, Bore in the middle of my chip to each side of the tree. Then come to my back cut, cut all the way back, leave about 3-4 inch backstrap insert my wedges. Cut off my strap, and WATCH HER FALL! :chainsawguy: But im a rookie.. what do i know? haha I learned how to fall by watching dad.. although he gave me a few pointers along the way!

 

[forestryworks]

Sure you weren't there??? Exactly.

There in the spirit

 

[RandyMac]

About a week ago... still ironin' out the bugs in my "mod" profile... Trimmed is helping me with that...

I've been here for a long time... nice to be able to give a little back.

Gary

So, Gary my lad, did you know that you are supposed to give a sixpack to the moderators on the other sites you visit? Henry's Blue Boar please.:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

 

[hammerlogging]

A couple more from Red's memoirs:

 

[056kid]

Hey Joe, a where you goin with that saw in yo hand?

Nice logs there, too bad we didnt get to kill a few trees together allthough I rekon it isen't too late. Whats up with the high stumps and level cuts though? Logs look much prettier when they are square at the butt. & I dont believe there is any rot in those stumps. You got a 32" bar so use it!!

 

[hammerlogging]

firescar on the uphill backside of every tree. And windshake in every butt. Thats the story of WV overmature timber. There is in fact fire damage on almost all the timber I work. If it was felled with a low stump it would have meant I'd have to butt it off on the ground, sometimes I'd have to have anyhow, always cut as low as reasonable but if you're flying wood, which we were, no sense in flying #### that would be butted off at the landing anyhow. On lots of this wood the second log was actually higher value than the butt log.

056, are you still around the east?

 

[tramp bushler]

Sorry no pics to post .

But I got some in my phone . Am on the libraries puter so ya'll l have to wait till I gvet nother lap top . Sorry .. Bin down in Southeast off and on this summer fallin yellow cedar and Spruce .. Some pretty spruce too ,. Brought a Duce an Half up over the highway runs great but had an electrical problem in Haines Jct. Thank God for a little indian with a fillet knife and some black tape .. Also bought a Timberjack 330 CP will have it trucked up in a bit ... Pics will be added ... Hi All . Everyone still alive ????

 

[schmuck.k]

But I got some in my phone . Am on the libraries puter so ya'll l have to wait till I gvet nother lap top . Sorry .. Bin down in Southeast off and on this summer fallin yellow cedar and Spruce .. Some pretty spruce too ,. Brought a Duce an Half up over the highway runs great but had an electrical problem in Haines Jct. Thank God for a little indian with a fillet knife and some black tape .. Also bought a Timberjack 330 CP will have it trucked up in a bit ... Pics will be added ... Hi All . Everyone still alive ????

sounds like you had a good summer. cant waight for the pics