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I've said it before, way more than once. It's all about proper care and maintenance. I can make a home-owner saw last just as long as a pro saw. But that's me. A lot of guys won't or don't go to any length to protect their investment(s).

And no, I'm not talking about production and/or commercial use. This thread isn't about that. It's about occasional use and getting the most out of what you have.
 
I still use my first saw, an MS290, infrequently, as a backup for bucking. It now wears a 16" GB Pro Top with RS chain. They are reliable and durable saws, but they are heavy and slow. Where I live, everybody's first saw was a Farm Boss. Some become enlightened and buy pro Stihls or Huskys; most do not. Stihl marketing knew what they were doing and hit the right price point with that series for many years.

Their most notable deficiency is the archaic, rubber mounted AV system, which actually does suck compared to current spring AV systems.
 
I use mostly "homeowner" class saws, and have no problem with plastic chassis clamshells. Some of them have surprisingly good performance and light weight.

The issue is value - I'm unwilling to spend a lot of money on a saw when I don't need to in order to get the job done or to enjoy using the tools. And I don't.

But in regards to value the Stihl plastic clamshells are completely unappealing to me. They still cost too much due to the name while being made of the same materials, but they lack in performance and lag in technology. Also I find the design needlessly complex and it has a few details I don't like at all.

Basically, if you are going after value and decide to buy a homeowner plastic clamshell, get one from a company who knows how to do it right and then don't throw away money just to get a name on the side so you can pretend otherwise.
 
How many times is the same garbage gonna be brought up on this site? Maybe Ill start a threat arguing about whose saw is 2 oz lighter and how much of a difference it makes. That would be totally original and helpful to people. Yes that series of Stihl saws is slow and heavy and all the cool kids hate them. Who cares? And guess what? They still cut wood. If you spend more money on a more expensive saw you get a better saw. Huh who would've thought. They are popular because of the price point, Stihls dealer network (for better or worse) and there are parts everywhere. I come to this forum to learn, get advice and hopefully give some myself. Pointless brand loyalty and bashing benefits no one.
 
I had an MS390 (basically same saw). Got it in a trade and put new bearings, seals, rings and gaskets in it. It ran decently well enough. Then I did a muffler mod and, holy cow, did it wake up. Lots of power. Then somebody else wanted it worse than me so I sold it. Kinda wish I still had it.
 
IMHO its been kind of slow on here for quite awhile and I'm starting to enjoy the oil threads and this one ain't bad either. Now I know why guys take hiatus from the site every once and again. :rolleyes:
 
Through a long series of events, I ended up with a beat up old 029 for $50. I decided to make it a 'loaner' saw as the thing was an underpowered, heavy POS.

The cylinder had some scores on it, so for another A$90 I bought an AM 390 kit with seals and hoses. Hmm, going from 54cc to 64cc plus a muffler mod, the bloody thing showed some potential (uh oh, I feel a project saw coming on). Then I dialled in the timing - did you know that accepted range for timing of a stock 029 was 23.5 degrees to 28.5 degrees? That woke it up even more, so I got rid of the 'emissions' carb and built my own carb for the saw. Now the thing was putting out respectable broad range power.

Then I spotted the 20" Husky NK bar sitting on the shelf with 3 chains. - Yeah, this is do-able... Got rid of that ridiculously heavy solid steel bar and put the laminated lightweight NK bar on it (added a different oil pump piston to double the oil flow). It was no longer 'heavy', it went from being nose heavy to tail heavy. With both hands supporting the weight it felt light and nimble with the NK bar on it.

The ugly POS is running a 9-pin with the rakers lowered to the softwood setting on the raker plate. The freaking thing is now my go-to saw. I really should use my modded 77cc saw on some of the bigger wood, but this thing is so light and fast cutting I'd rather use the crappy 029. - Somewhere along the line I forgot it was to be a 'loaner' saw, LOL.
 
Uhh, the 029 SUPER hasn't been made in fifteen years. Get over it...

Oh yeah, husqys are flimsy :D.
 
My friend has a 390 I've been wanting to try just to compare it to my echo. He loves his saw, only uses it a couple times a year and it's his 1 saw plan. Fits the bill.
 
I got an 029S used a few years back and thought the same thing about power. Then I got on here and learned a little about muffler openings and such. Now with a MM and tune, it's a different story! I like my 029! It starts good. It cuts pretty darn good with a 20" full comp/full chisel. Is th 8 pin 066 faster? Heck yah. I don't notice the weight though since I'm used to slinging 044's and 046's with 25" B/C's and my 066 with 28" B/C's... so to me it's my "light" saw that gives me a break!

Duane
 

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