Felling 2 trees

[RRSsawshop]

Need some advice on felling 2 trees that are very close together at the stumps and almost limb locked in the canopy!!!
Tree #1 is an ash 18" on the stump no real problem with this tree alone.
Tree #2 is a cherry 28" to 30" on the stump,leans into ash,fence wire and an insulator plus barb wire in it also!!!

My logic tells me to notch the ash first,then use the cherry to push it.
But with all the garbage in the cherry I have to cut stump at about 3' or more to stay out of it. Will this still work or will it kick back?? :monkey:

 

[fonzie]

I would do exactly as you said front the ash knick the back load it with a wedge and fall/drive with the cherry as per normal, as for the rubbish I would utilise an old chain as Im sure if your anything like me you would have one laying around that wouldnt matter if it was wrecked!! this I guess would allow you to fall the cherry at a normal comfortable hieght,has worked for me in the past.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Pictures please...

Also pictures about 100 foot back for different views of the trees. Like from the north, then 90 degree different view from the east (or whatever).

 

[RRSsawshop]

Got them on the ground today!!! Wasn't pretty but hey its done,cut a high stump on the cherry (no way was I going to cut thru that much metal with a chain it would have broke it)and pushed the ash over.
What I was worried about was the cherry kicking back because of the high stump,it did but not as bad as I thought,still I hauled a:censored:s out of there once I got her moving!!!!
Sorry guys no pics I'm still "old school" in the photography department!!!

 

[clearance]

Trees do not kick back because of high cuts. They come back sometimes when they hit other trees. Humbolt with a stepped backcut works best.

 

[fonzie]

Yeah you do have to be careful with fence wire etc small amounts are all I have had to deal (after significant time spent on wire cutters) with and havent had to many dramas but you got em down without hassle good job.Did you load the ash with a wedge??

 

[RRSsawshop]

Trees do not kick back because of high cuts. They come back sometimes when they hit other trees. Humbolt with a stepped backcut works best.

I used a humbolt and cut the back cut higher than my normal cut.It was limb locked before it hit the ash to push it.YES I had the ash wedged tight!!when they both went over the cherry road up on the ash for a second then kicked back about 6' behind the stump,I knew it was going to before I even started to make any cuts.Just one of thous trees you walk up to and look at and know its not going to be pretty!!!! :jawdrop:

 

[clearance]

Hmmm, anyways, you got them down safe, and used a Humbolt. Good for you.

 

[parttime]

Trees do not kick back because of high cuts. They come back sometimes when they hit other trees. Humbolt with a stepped backcut works best.

Hey what is "humbolt" thanks.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Hey what is "humbolt" thanks.

The idea of this cut is to be able to use all of the wood from the log which falls to the ground (when cut up at a mill). The notch is cut into the stump rather than into the log.

 

[parttime]

thanks billy bob, I try to learn something new everyday. Hunmbolt is it for today.

 

[A. Stanton]

Be careful, you don't want to end up lookin like this.

 

[RRSsawshop]

Be careful, you don't want to end up lookin like this.

OH,I've done that more than once!!!!!!!Grab the Dozer and hook the winch cable to them and pull them down!!!:chainsawguy:

 

[Billy_Bob]

thanks billy bob, I try to learn something new everyday. Hunmbolt is it for today.

Here is a bunch more stuff for learning...

Common chainsaw injury locations on body - diagram.
(1/2 way down page)...
http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/logging/manual/logger/personal_equip/personal_equip.html

Stihl DVD: "Chain Saw Safety, Operation & Maintenance"...
http://stihldealer.net/videolibrary/

"Oregon Maintenance and Safety Manual" on-line book...
http://www.oregonchain.com/tech/manual_maint.htm

OSHA Logging eTool...
(Manual logging or mechanical logging)
http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/logging/mainpage.html

Book: "Professional Timber Falling" By Douglas Dent
http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=17309&catID=47

National Timber Harvesting and Transportation Safety Foundation
Logging Safety Web Site...
http://www.loggingsafety.com

Stihl - Guide to Saw Chain Maintenance...
http://www.stihllibrary.com/pdf/SharpAdvice061301final.pdf

 

[parttime]

thanks again Billy Bob, I've plenty to read now.

 

[tramp bushler]

The idea of this cut is to be able to use all of the wood from the log which falls to the ground (when cut up at a mill). The notch is cut into the stump rather than into the log.

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. Billy Bob , you got a full face dutchman in that diagram . ., .

. I don,t have many pics uploaded to P bucket of cutting yet . I,ll troll up an old one .. Maybe someone else has a good stump picture they could post ..

 

[tramp bushler]

I hadn,t seen your next posts . I need a faster connection for the streaming vids

 

[056kid]

I think thats sposed to be holdong wood

 

[tramp bushler]

Maybe it,s spossed to be , but look close , it,s a dutchman . .. I,m not saying Commander Bob did the diagram , but who ever did needs to be a bit more careful with their cuts , .... The reason I brought it up is lots of guys have got killed or crippled for life because they didn,t pay close attention to the details on the stump ,an d the particular tree that got them needed the details done right ....
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. Not gettin after anyone . Just don,t want any of the silent majority to think full face dutchmen are the right thing to do ......

 

[parttime]

Tramp Bushler, this is a Dutchman because the back cut is to high?