finally used my new 346XP and don't like the 95vp

[SWI Don]

I am sure that our experiences will be somewhat different. I cut almost exclusivly hardwoods but they could be in any condition from green to dry or partially burnt. We may come up with the same favorite setup but maybe not.

I'll be reading to see how your trials work out.

Don

 

[SawTroll]

One final question: Do I need to go to a different bar (other than the narrow kerf) if I try a different (non-narrow kerf) .325 chain?

Thanx all

I am not sure that bar will support the standard chain well enough for allround use (never tried it as we can't get the standard (non-NK) chains in .050 here :bang: ), but it will surely work well enough for some test cuts (streight downwards).


Another note, I have read a few complaints on the 20NK chain, saying that the cutters tend to brake off - I have never used it myself.

 

[peter399]

I wouldn't run Stihl chain on a 346, stick with the Narrow Kerf B/C that came with it.

Some people say Stihl chains eat Oregon bars and the other way around. For a 50cc saw, I prefer 15" and 0,325" 21BP or Stihl RMC. 3/8 is IMO for 60cc and bigger. A 18" bar and 3/8 will make your 346 bulky, heavy and less "agressive" .

 

[SawTroll]

Some people say Stihl chains eat Oregon bars and the other way around.

I hardly believe so.....

For a 50cc saw, I prefer 15" and 0,325" 21BP or Stihl RMC.

Hmmmmmm - your wood must be dirty, standardizing on semi-chisel......

 

[maccall]

I hardly believe so.....



Hmmmmmm - your wood must be dirty, standardizing on semi-chisel......

He might share my experience: RSC and LP is extremely hard to find, it's always on special order, I have never seen them in a shop! And only a few dealers have even ever heard of other than RMC and BP.

It wastes less time cutting with RMC/BP instead, than arguing and explaining what an RSC/LP is at the dealers...

 

[SawTroll]

He might share my experience: RSC and LP is extremely hard to find, it's always on special order, I have never seen them in a shop! And only a few dealers have even ever heard of other than RMC and BP.

It wastes less time cutting with RMC/BP instead, than arguing and explaining what an RSC/LP is at the dealers...

LOL - I have invested that round with my Husky dealer and his rep.....

RSC and LP is standard here in 3/8", but not in .325.....

 

[wildbio]

20RC, 20RCS (both Woodsman Pro by Carlton(?))(.325)
20LP (Oregon .325)
These standard .325 chains are listed on the websites of AS sponsors.
I've grown accustomed to either having to special order through a local dealer or order online...and it's usually much more straight-foward, quicker, and less expensive to order online (and involves a trip to the mailbox rather than two to town).

 

[peter399]

He might share my experience: RSC and LP is extremely hard to find, it's always on special order, I have never seen them in a shop! And only a few dealers have even ever heard of other than RMC and BP.

It wastes less time cutting with RMC/BP instead, than arguing and explaining what an RSC/LP is at the dealers...

Exactly . I looked through the entire shelf the last time and couldn't find one package of LP... On the 353 I run 95VP, but that's about the only option there is besides the BP.

 

[blis]

He might share my experience: RSC and LP is extremely hard to find, it's always on special order, I have never seen them in a shop! And only a few dealers have even ever heard of other than RMC and BP.

It wastes less time cutting with RMC/BP instead, than arguing and explaining what an RSC/LP is at the dealers...

here they dont know what it is, they cant even order it...

 

[SawTroll]

here they dont know what it is, they cant even order it...

Sure they can, if you provide them with the right info, and they want to do it - like 21LP-66 for a 16" /.325 /.058 LP for Husky bars.

For a Stihl bar, it would normally be 21LP-67 (-68 with 9-pin sprocket).

 

[SWE#Kipp]

Peter and Maccall talk to your dealers, the dealer I got is not always too happy with the stuff I want him to order but he gets it done anyway ,,,,

 

[blis]

Sure they can, if you provide them with the right info, and they want to do it - like 21LP-66 for a 16" /.325 /.058 LP for Husky bars.

For a Stihl bar, it would normally be 21LP-67 (-68 with 9-pin sprocket).

I doubt that... most places that sell chainsaws dont know anything about chainsaws and those few who might know dont sell em -_-


ps. is there lp chain for 13"/.325/1.3mm husky bars? (56links that is)

 

[maccall]

I doubt that... most places that sell chainsaws dont know anything about chainsaws and those few who might know dont sell em -_-


ps. is there lp chain for 13"/.325/1.3mm husky bars? (56links that is)

Oregon 20LP is 1.3 but not narrow kerf, same as 23RSC if you go Stihl, but if it's narrow kerf you wan't then I have no idea. Don't think I've heard of that...

 

[maccall]

Peter and Maccall talk to your dealers, the dealer I got is not always too happy with the stuff I want him to order but he gets it done anyway ,,,,

Mmm... Well I did, last spring. Don't know if you remember the whining about the impossibility to get parts I did on another forum about then? What I had ordered was a clutchdrum for rim sprockets to my 250, and 2 each of 26RMC and 26RSC. The third time I was in the shop and asked if the parts had arrived yet (got no order number or date before) I think they actually placed the order (!), and after 2 more visits they promised to give me a call when the parts had arrived. It took in the neighborhood of 8 to 10 weeks before they had the sprocket and RSC chains, the RMC chains appeared a little sooner. And this is a dealer that for all other business I've taken there has been real good...

 

[SWE#Kipp]

Yeah I remember now ,,,,,,

 

[SawTroll]

I doubt that... most places that sell chainsaws dont know anything about chainsaws and those few who might know dont sell em -_-


ps. is there lp chain for 13"/.325/1.3mm husky bars? (56links that is)

That would be 20LP-56, but if the bar is a NK (Pixel) one I am not sure if the chain will get enough support (thinner side laminates).

I suggest you get a 1.5mm (.058) bar, and 21LP - at least here, 21LP is easier to get than 20LP.

 

[SWE#Kipp]

That would be 20LP-56, but if the bar is a NK (Pixel) one I am not sure if the chain will get enough support (thinner side laminates).

I suggest you get a 1.5mm (.058) bar, and 21LP - at least here, 21 LP is easier to get than 20LP.

it works, but the support is not good and you feel it in the cut !

 

[blis]

That would be 20LP-56, but if the bar is a NK (Pixel) one I am not sure if the chain will get enough support (thinner side laminates).

I suggest you get a 1.5mm (.058) bar, and 21LP - at least here, 21LP is easier to get than 20LP.

well darn it, just threw a new 1.3mm bar on my saw cos i made a hole in my bibs some weeks ago and everyone knows what it does to bar (well, it was husq original and pretty worn anyway) and dont feel like buying another one... but its not NK bar as far as i can tell...

 

[wildbio]

I now have in my possession Oregon 95vp, Woodsman Pro (made for Baileys by Carlton) 20NK, and Oregon 20LP. All are .325 .050. I checked with 2 local Stihl dealers and they do not stock any .325 chain in .050....just in .063 otherwise I would also have some RSC or RS to try. If someone knows a Stihl dealer that would make me a loop of the Stihl RSC chain .325 pitch and .050 gauge let me know so I can compare that as well. It's going on the 346XP with 18" micro-lite bar so would be 72 drive links.
I hope to be able to do an in the wood comparison with what I have in the next week or so. I'll keep an eye out for issues with using the non-narrow kerk chain (20LP) on the narrow kerf bar.

 

[SawTroll]

well darn it, just threw a new 1.3mm bar on my saw cos i made a hole in my bibs some weeks ago and everyone knows what it does to bar (well, it was husq original and pretty worn anyway) and dont feel like buying another one... but its not NK bar as far as i can tell...

The 95VP probably is the best option on the 353 anyway, so don't dispair!