Finessed this Box Elder

[rbtree]

not bad for a hairlip

once you've Vt'd you'll neva look back!

good work....looks fine, maybe a teensy weeny bit less down low and a bit more up high? but it's not fair to critique from across the Us of Eh!,, eh?

 

[rbtree]

Latino, nailsy, latino..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acer_negundo

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

I used to wear Danner, but found that their signature external welt stitching would wear out fast in the tree.

Actually any boot with a lot of stitching on the upper will go fast if you footlock, single piece upper lasts the longest.

FWIW

 

[OLD CHIPMONK]

You could be a candidate for " Interior Secretary" :rockn: :rockn: :rockn:

 

[tree MDS]

Looks pretty good from what I can see nails. Nice work.

You got alot of them crap trees yer way? Nice ID, I didnt even know what those things were up until a couple years ago. Never seen one that big here.

Good to see you workn the tips a little more gingerly than yer bro, lol.

 

[cutitup]

Nice work nails!

As far as a "softer" boot goes I actually will use them when limbing for removals if it requires allot of moving about the canopy. I have a pair that doesn't even have a shank and the really helps me grip the limb. Of course, when I'm getting down to the spar I'll switch over to my "clod hoppers" and spikes.

.... and welcome to the world of the VT! Like everyone says there's no going back. Unless ya want to go 'retro' once in while.

 

[treeseer]

Very nice; time and resprouting will tell whether roger and wll (and my first impression) were right about too much off the middle and bottom. Was the raising a client call or your aesthetic judgment?

I kind of like some droopage; protects the roots and the biodynamics. The tree put those lower and interior branches on for a (good?) reason.

Great climbing and phenomenal photos--makes me want to retry the vt sometime. Thanks for posting your good work!

 

[tree MDS]

Thanks SL, nice snakes! You can keep em'. Hey, how does rattler taste, does it make good grub?

+1, Get the spaded shovel and chop, chop, chop. lol.

 

[SLlandscape]

Thanks SL, nice snakes! You can keep em'. Hey, how does rattler taste, does it make good grub?

I dont' eat rattle snakes, or any other snake. Im in to reptiles and big spiders. Myself and four friends of mine are the same way. In the summer we go out to places in the country on peoples farms or ranches catching them. We don't eat any of them, or kill them. Take a couple of pics and let them go, but if it might be a record breaker for size, or if one has a new color or trait never seen before we keep it. If the landowner wants we relocate them to another place. Usually we spend a whole day lookin' around. this past summer we caught 70 rattlers and 70-80 other types we have here.
In June me and 1 of the others in our group drove 23 miles and spent 4 hours getting a coach whip (6' long and pissed to no end ) out of the engine compartment of a suburban.

 

[treeseer]

I dont' eat rattle snakes, or any other snake. Im in to reptiles and big spiders. Myself and four friends of mine are the same way. In the summer we go out to places in the country on peoples farms or ranches catching them. We don't eat any of them, or kill them. Take a couple of pics and let them go, but if it might be a record breaker for size, or if one has a new color or trait never seen before we keep it.

Sounds like fun--wuddya do with it?

 

[Nailsbeats]

Thanks for the support guys. We have quiete a few Box Elder in my area, they seem to be a fairly common yard tree. I don't mind working on them either, they have a good feel to them. That tree didn't used to have all that low hanging stuff, it all sprouted out when the bigger leads were cut off a few years back. It'll be interesting to watch how it reacts. Later.

 

[SLlandscape]

Sounds like fun--wuddya do with it?

If it is has uncommon coloring, or a pattern that stands out really good we sell it or try to breed to get the same pattern in the babies. If it might be a record breaker for length we take it back to town, measure it and decide from there. As for the coach whip we caught out of the suburban, We let it go on the other side of the county. And then cleaned ourselves up from all the bite marks he gave us.
Little FYI to all, there is actually quit a bit of money in reptiles. So keep that in mind if you see a dull yellow on a rattlesnake.

 

[SLlandscape]

Thanks SL, nice snakes! You can keep em'. Hey, how does rattler taste, does it make good grub?

If you're ever in the Texas panhandle look me up in the books and we'll catch ya' snake of your own. hehe

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Thanks for the support guys. We have quiete a few Box Elder in my area, they seem to be a fairly common yard tree.

Lots of small towns and rural areas have trees that tend to selfseed and grow fast. You talk to the older residents and find that they took it out of a fence or hedge 60 years ago when they first moved in.

I've been watching my lawn for oaks as I mow and mowing around the seedlings. It is frustrating, since they put so much early energy into roots, they look like weeds for the first two years. I think I will be getting a few good bur hybrids by the leaf shapes. There are whites and swamp white in the area

 

[(WLL)]

Please enlighten me on how it should have been done.

sorry nails i did not mention that u did a fine job. i think i woulda pushed fer a dynamic cable and prolly wood a used a sissy stick (pole saw) and did more crown thinning and less gutting the center. if i do any elevation, and its @ my discretion(usually its not) i dont like to go more than head high(6ft) and usually its just to even the drippline and get it out of the grass cutters faces. again nails i apologies and i want to say good work.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Originally Posted by Nailsbeats View Post
Please enlighten me on how it should have been done.

prolly wood a used a sissy stick (pole saw) and did more crown thinning and less gutting the center. if i do any elevation, and its @ my discretion(usually its not) i dont like to go more than head high(6ft) and usually its just to even the drippline and get it out of the grass cutters faces.

I agree that the lower raise/thin was a bit heavy, but it is better then big cuts at the trunk.You will be getting a lot of sprouting off of those limbs, so a return in 2-3 years my be warranted. You can train some of those advanticous sprouts into inner canopy through judicious pruning.

I would not call it a gut, from here it does not look like he stripped out a lot of inner canopy.

Looks like it is on a drive on a farm property, so it could need clearance for semi's and tall tractors. If not I would not have gone that high.

The thing of crown symmetry when raised is purely aesthetic, and I try to avoid it when ever possible since yo often end up taking too much from the tree over all when you do.

A few more stubs on branch ends then I would like to see.

As for more thinning in the upper canopy, I'm two ways about it. If you have to take so much from the bottom, then you should do less on the top. I try to limit it to conflicting areas where there is competition with the center leader.

Since the crown is semi-globouse, the lower 30% of the canopy has 60% of the dynamic mass of the tree.

 

[Thillmaine]

Nails

I think it looks mint as well. Again a bit more up top a bit less down low. But it s a box elder, who really cares?
Vt is a sick knot, I prefer it to any other knot, and I have been through them all. I especially like it for crane work, makes for quick return time to the end of your rope once you pull your line through the friction saver. The martin (my previous knot) liked to bind up something fierce after it had signifigant pressure on it.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

But it s a box elder, who really cares?

If it is the clients only large landscape tree, the good practitioner should care no matter what the species is.

 

[Nailsbeats]

sorry nails i did not mention that u did a fine job. i think i woulda pushed fer a dynamic cable and prolly wood a used a sissy stick (pole saw) and did more crown thinning and less gutting the center. if i do any elevation, and its @ my discretion(usually its not) i dont like to go more than head high(6ft) and usually its just to even the drippline and get it out of the grass cutters faces. again nails i apologies and i want to say good work.

No problem, I got ya, and thanks.

 

[(WLL)]

If it is the clients only large landscape tree, the good practitioner should care no matter what the species is.

+1:agree2: