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Weatherby
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Glens,
I didn't notch it because I didnt want the tree coming down on its own. I hooked a chain to it and used a power puller (hand winch) to put tension on it. While I cut slowly my father kept tightening the chain until I saw it start to open up a bit. At that point I put the saw down and pulled the tree over with the power puller. Youll notice my ample use of safety equipment in this one as well. Like Glens said they are doubled knee carharts, that counts right? I wear those things even when its 100 degrees with 95% humidity, hard to destroy them.
Rob
I didn't notch it because I didnt want the tree coming down on its own. I hooked a chain to it and used a power puller (hand winch) to put tension on it. While I cut slowly my father kept tightening the chain until I saw it start to open up a bit. At that point I put the saw down and pulled the tree over with the power puller. Youll notice my ample use of safety equipment in this one as well. Like Glens said they are doubled knee carharts, that counts right? I wear those things even when its 100 degrees with 95% humidity, hard to destroy them.
Rob
Rob,
Just checking (with no offense intended): you are aware that that's pretty much the poster-child way <i>not</i> to do it, aren't you?
You're fortunate because the tree coming down on it's own is likely what really happened. At about what angle from the vertical would you guess the holding wood snapped and you lost every bit of what little control you had? I'm guessing it was pretty darn soon, and with the pull so low on the tree you're pretty lucky the stem didn't just jump and stand on the edge of the stump (or on the ground beside it) before commencing to free-fall - or did it?
On the one hand, I'm sorry for bringing it up. Maybe nobody would have. But I'm thinking maybe we should both be glad.
Glen
Just checking (with no offense intended): you are aware that that's pretty much the poster-child way <i>not</i> to do it, aren't you?
You're fortunate because the tree coming down on it's own is likely what really happened. At about what angle from the vertical would you guess the holding wood snapped and you lost every bit of what little control you had? I'm guessing it was pretty darn soon, and with the pull so low on the tree you're pretty lucky the stem didn't just jump and stand on the edge of the stump (or on the ground beside it) before commencing to free-fall - or did it?
On the one hand, I'm sorry for bringing it up. Maybe nobody would have. But I'm thinking maybe we should both be glad.
Glen
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Rob,
I must say you must have some big brass ball$ to be even attempting to fell any tree likw that with no notch,you are very lucky that it did'nt barberchair on you,or did it?I don't quite understand why you did not use any face cut..You did'nt want it falling on it's own that does'nt make very much sense to me..For starters I think I would have put that chain a little higher up in the tree I have seen people do things like that before only put it as high as arms reach and then after finishing the back cut I also watched them pull on it and they pulled the bottom of the tree towards them instead of pulling from the top and it went the other way and luckily only hit a shed and not the house.General rule of thumb any tree over 6" DBH must have a notch..
Later Rob.
I must say you must have some big brass ball$ to be even attempting to fell any tree likw that with no notch,you are very lucky that it did'nt barberchair on you,or did it?I don't quite understand why you did not use any face cut..You did'nt want it falling on it's own that does'nt make very much sense to me..For starters I think I would have put that chain a little higher up in the tree I have seen people do things like that before only put it as high as arms reach and then after finishing the back cut I also watched them pull on it and they pulled the bottom of the tree towards them instead of pulling from the top and it went the other way and luckily only hit a shed and not the house.General rule of thumb any tree over 6" DBH must have a notch..
Later Rob.
Rob,
Just out of curiosity, had you sectioned that tree before felling it, and if so how close to the ground?
Just out of curiosity, had you sectioned that tree before felling it, and if so how close to the ground?
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Ben, with all the safty equipment available why not use it??? too lazy??? or is it just "sisy"?? you are allready doing something dangerous so why not be as safe as you can???
Ryan, I am bull headed as can be and I do not need anyone telling me how to make a personal decision on something like what saftey equipment to wear. If I want to disembowel myself with my 044 more power to me as we live in a fee country. I never said I didnt use saftey gear. You came to that conclusion on your own. BTW I think Weatherby is extremely lucky. That tree could have killed or injured him quite easily. Saftey chaps or not.
I don't see how anyone cut wood without at least a pair of safety glasses on. I know how small dust, that only some of us throw off a chainsaw, likes to get in my eyes. They're very stylish and cheap now. Earplugs are also cheap. Better yet get yourself a $40 hardhat, earmuff and screen combo. It looks like you might need them all real soon.:angel:
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Safety Equipment and Safe Felling Practices
Ditto.
Ditto.
ClearH20Scott
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I finally found something I can agree with bwalker on, we do
live in a "fee" country. Everywhere I turn there is another fee.
All kinds of fees because people don't wear safety equipment.
live in a "fee" country. Everywhere I turn there is another fee.
All kinds of fees because people don't wear safety equipment.
This is (finally) a summarizing post. Rob (Weatherby), please don't take this as being "picked on", this is very valuable stuff!
Earlier in this thread, "Weatherby" posted a picture and my attention was drawn to this part of it:
<img src="http://www.arboristsite.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=78820">
I then basically asked him about his felling method based upon that part of his image.
He subsequently replied with this and a description:
<img src="http://www.arboristsite.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=78823">
Ignoring the absence of at least rudimentary eye and ear protection, I feel discussion should focus on the two aspects depicted here. I want to do this both for his benefit and for others who're simply "watching".
In looking over the second image, I see what must be remnants of the top which he'd stated had broken out of the tree. Due to the diameter of portions readily visible, I'd think the location of the natural break couldn't have been too terribly much higher than the top of the image. If that's the case, a small part of the safety concerns regarding the felling could be somewhat alleviated. But only a small part.
Rob, how much higher than the top of the second photo was the break?
Glen
Earlier in this thread, "Weatherby" posted a picture and my attention was drawn to this part of it:
<img src="http://www.arboristsite.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=78820">
I then basically asked him about his felling method based upon that part of his image.
He subsequently replied with this and a description:
<img src="http://www.arboristsite.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=78823">
Ignoring the absence of at least rudimentary eye and ear protection, I feel discussion should focus on the two aspects depicted here. I want to do this both for his benefit and for others who're simply "watching".
In looking over the second image, I see what must be remnants of the top which he'd stated had broken out of the tree. Due to the diameter of portions readily visible, I'd think the location of the natural break couldn't have been too terribly much higher than the top of the image. If that's the case, a small part of the safety concerns regarding the felling could be somewhat alleviated. But only a small part.
Rob, how much higher than the top of the second photo was the break?
Glen
Ryan Willock
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Ben, you're right we do live in a free country!! If you don't want to wear safty gear then thats your issue, I'll stick to my saw pants and helment!!! :angel:
Weatherby
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Glens,
Your correct, the top broke right at the top of that picture. I believe if I remember correctly the log measured about 20' when felled. This tree was cut awhile ago, before I knew much about felling techniques and is a good example of what not to do, like everyone has mentioned. Im not trying to make excuses, everyone has to learn somehow, and its good when that learning occurs with no one getting hurt. I do now wear safety glasses, and ear plugs, but im still to stubborn to wear chaps.
Your correct, the top broke right at the top of that picture. I believe if I remember correctly the log measured about 20' when felled. This tree was cut awhile ago, before I knew much about felling techniques and is a good example of what not to do, like everyone has mentioned. Im not trying to make excuses, everyone has to learn somehow, and its good when that learning occurs with no one getting hurt. I do now wear safety glasses, and ear plugs, but im still to stubborn to wear chaps.
That's good to hear, Rob.
I'll admit that I don't wear chaps either, and that I've had a few lucky incidents along those lines myself. I'm just glad that I never took photos :<i></i>)
It's too bad that tulip trees suck for firewood, huh?
Glen
I'll admit that I don't wear chaps either, and that I've had a few lucky incidents along those lines myself. I'm just glad that I never took photos :<i></i>)
It's too bad that tulip trees suck for firewood, huh?
Glen
