Footlock Runner

[daniel kraus]

Hey Nick. Lets see your spliced footlocker. Did you splice it yourself? Will it pass a safety inspection? How do I get one or make one?
Thanks Dan

 

[TreeJunkie]

Dan, splicing one would be pretty simple. However, getting the length exactly right might be slightly tricky. I'm sure they judges would love to see this. Nick do you have an method for getting the length just right?

 

[NickfromWI]

You just have to base it off the length of whatever footlock prusik you use now....precise measurements are key.

With locking brummells on each side and a break strength of 6000lbs, I would be interested in hearing any concerns a judge might have!

love
nick

 

[Tree Machine]

You guys may want to consider the fact that using a traditional doubled rope technique is a 2:1 mechanical disadvantage. In other words, if you grab two lengths with your feet, you push yourself up one length. 50% efficiency, which is why I call it a 2:1 mechanical disadvantage.

Also, as the rope is feeding through the crotch, your weight pulling the rope into the bark, or friction saver, there is friction, another negative force to work against in you getting up there.

Third, even though it's called doubled rope technique, it's a doubled rope at the level of your upper body, but a single rope at the level of your feet, meaning you're footlocking (as far as your feet are concerned) up a single line. This is why a Pantin can be a good assistant.

Fourth, most climbing ropes have a stretch to them (dynamic) which can serve as an advantage if you use the bounce from the last push to help propel you up the next. This requires a continuous rhythm to get the benefit that might be gotten. For many, I imagine the elasticity is not a true asset.

Leon states "it seems like SRT entry methods are the most efficient,", and that is because when you grab two lengths with your feet, you push yourself up two lengths. Also there is no friction up high in the crotch working against you during your ascent. The negative??? You're still footlocking up a single line, which is where a Pantin may come in handy.

I'm just clarifying these points so there's clear understanding of why one method would be considered more efficient than the other, and offer some possible insight on why so many guys are having a problem footlocking.

 

[wiley_p]

Hey Treejunkie, it may not be right to put down people who disagree with what it seems you veiw as the proper entry method for a "real tree guy", So how about you come out West with your riverbottom butt and open your mind a little bub. I love this stuff, Kansas maybe you could show me a thing or two about hardwoods, and well I could show you some of the criteria I judge a Treeman by, whatsay?

 

[TreeJunkie]

Wiley,

LMAO! Why are you taking such offense? Did i direct those comments toward you? I don't think so. Oh, I get it. You must be the old and broken guy, or something like that.

I wasn't describing a treeguy. I was referring to method of entry.

Sorry you take such comments so personally.

 

[Rob Murphy]

sIT bACK

Originally posted by TreeJunkie
Dan, splicing one would be pretty simple. However, getting the length exactly right might be slightly tricky. I'm sure they judges would love to see this. Nick do you have an method for getting the length just right? [/QUO
its the sit back length you have to get right as well....anyway who you calling broken down old climber ...come over here and say that!!

 

[Guy Meilleur]

Originally posted by TreeJunkie
Wiley, You must be the old and broken guy,

Nah, I think I am, and you can add stupid and uncoordinated too. I won't learn footlocking but I still get up the trees just fine thanks. Power to those who can do all ascension techniques, but let's face it, it gets a little redundant doesn't it?

I'd rather use my limited time and brainpower learning new tree care methods than another new climbing technique. How you get up there is not as important as what you do when you're in the tree, is it?.

Old and Broken but still getting up!