Footlocker/ Rock Exotica Dualascender?0

[OutOnaLimb]

Doent the shunt work on the concept of small picks in the device to grab the rope? How can you ascend to your intended point and then come down to your preferred tie in point? Maybe I am wrong. Some one please set me straight on this.
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I am blessed with long legs and by using the traditional prusick I can pull up 24 inches with my legs and another 18 inches with the upper body thrust . I usually over shoot my target, and then swing out to my primary tie in point. I dont see how this can be done with mechanical ascenders

 

[NickfromWI]

Dislikes of the roc exotica

So here's a better description of the prob I'm having with the roc exotica.....

Say you have the line doubled over a branch...You clip on the ascender over each side, now hold the rope and spin around a few times....the rope will twist/candy-cane. Now, proceed with the ascent. The ascender will push the twists up the rope. You will get to a point where you can ascend no further, due to the crossing/twisting of the rope. You have to stop mid-air and swing around the other way until both rope ends are hanging parallel...then you may proceed.

With a prusik, it doesn't matter...you just go up, over any crossings of the rope.

love
nick

 

[daniel kraus]

Hello
I just want to clear up for TreeJunky or anyone else who working on their Aerial rescue of a comp. I used the footlocker to get into the tree only, I did not tie my rigging to it. I tied myself to a branch that was handy.

 

[TreeJunkie]

gotcha dan,,,i'm sure you are familiar with running a biner w/ pulley off a short prusik cord, which you run your climbing line through and work off this set up. Footlock up high enough for a good point of attack, place a biner w/ stopper knot under prusik, and you are off working. I've used it twice now, it's pretty quick, and eliminates recrotching. If angle is bad a quick redirect can be installed. By taking my rope up on my back in a pack, i can eliminate having to redirect climbing line, and by working off of the prusik it elimates having to unclip your system and also elimates the need to ever lanyard in.

I was thinking using the footlocker instead of the the short prusik, would be a slicker set up and might run a little nicer, also a little safer i would think, although i think it would still be a good idea to place a stopper knot below the footlocker.

The idea was derived from Jared Arborjena, and a guy named dan down in Mesa, AZ. i like it, granted, it only works if the tree is set up properly.

 

[SteveBullman]

Originally posted by rumination
What kind of climbing line are you using there Stephen?

that was beal top gun 10.5mm
just started using fly. not quite so smooth with the fly with it being thicker

 

[Tom Dunlap]

TJ wrote:

The idea was derived from Jared Arborjena, and a guy named dan down in Mesa, AZ.

There's a nit wandering past me so I have to pick it

I saw Jeff Jepson use that system in the AR in MN about seven or more years ago. When we talked about it he said that he had just thought it up. There are probably other climbers who've used it in the past too.

Tom

 

[TreeJunkie]

I wassn't saying that they invented it... This was just where i first saw it. So this is my experience w/ the history of the system. I'm sure others use it, however, from the comps i've been to only maybe a handfull of others out there practicing this technique.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

I know what you were saying Just filling in some historical details.

That's a good system. Nice combination of techniques. Very flexible too.

Tom

 

[okietreedude1]

By taking my rope up on my back in a pack,

You mean that pretty red/blue one that says 'TONKA' on it????

 

[TreeJunkie]

You mean "LEGO",,, heck yeah, it's light, and it's retro. I picked that up at the thrift store for 50 cents. .

 

[okietreedude1]

Originally posted by TreeJunkie
You mean "LEGO",,, heck yeah, it's light, and it's retro. I picked that up at the thrift store for 50 cents. .

Now if you could only find 'Eggo' rope. You could then make a new meaning for the phrase........"Leggo my Eggo!!"

 

[daniel kraus]

Yes I’m well aware of these young hot shots with their fancy pants climbing systems.
Everything’s moving so fast, I stay the same for a couple of years and all of a sudden I’m old school.
Got to start working on my game.

 

[rbtree]

Ha Dan, you old skuul, that'll be the day!!


But then, you are GRCS less...Pfsstt, lol! We used it twice today, to aid in rigging a hard leaning maple....we also used the Simpson capstan winch to yard out the lodged maple...had like 4 line on 'er! Double lowering lined the maple to get through our tiny drop zone between several tied back rhodys and vine maple. Had retrievable block and lowering line set at 65 feet in a well placed fir.

Next use was to upright a big fallen cedar stump to get it to flop back in the hole.

Let me know when you guys get a tough job, I work cheap....haha.

Pictures and maybe a new thread will follow. We've now used "The Winch" five of the last 7 work days!

Rog, the old not so hot shot...eating ibuprofen and icing his toe that he clulessly dropped a chunk on--the poor old arthritic toe joint that has hurt since a gymnastics injury 40 long years ago...and nursing the broken (?) finger from day one of the storm work, and a broken (?) neck from the worst skiing fall of his life, at Whistler, 3 days before the little blow hit. And going in for implant surgery tomorrow...hey girls look at this!!!! Errr, just making some new teeth.....

Dang, there he goes again, thread derailing...just ignore the ole geezer, fellas!