get into a tree like right now!

[kennertree]

Lol.

How does this guy have 3 rep points and I'm still stuck at 2 :monkey: Lol.

Just gave you your third.

 

[treemandan]

a few of the posts lately have been outlandishly odd and this was my attempt to illustrate how crazy things can get. i can't say i didn't have fun doing it though. i was laughing my ass of when i did it and my wife said, "i thought you were really excited about the arborsite forum you found, why would you want to come off like a hack?" i just kept giggling, i couldn't help it.

treemandan: i agree that if you were to use this method, your system is the wisest, most logical way. there are a couple of problems, like: when you get to the top you could break the rope or limb if the truck doesn't stop. and i don't think the hitch is really necessary unless the truck suddenly goes in reverse at 60 MPH. but point taken. gear is fun to play with. plat at your own risk.

i was actually surprised more people didn't get involved in the thread considering all the bashing that tends to go on around here. remember folks, we can share our experiences without degrading other people. we should encourage and build up in conjunction with constructive criticism. when we bash, it serves only to fuel our ego @ other people's expense. rock on you fellow tree nuts!:rockn:

You have to know that this is actually a common method and that you are guilty of trolling.
You also should know that whoever is in the truck is just as serious as I am. It is no different than any of the rigging one does with any apparatus.
I mentioned that I use a 8g lbs winch to pull trees over and some guy said" I would never do that as it to much pull and the tree would barber chair". I took that to mean he didn't know his rearend from a hole in the ground.
Also I was told be a guy that useing a truck to get into a tree was wrong and since he held himself higher than the rest he made it a point to show people pictures of people falling off ladders and saying" this is not us" in his marketing strategy. Of course it was a lie, the guy was inept and his employees were green and often left to their own devices. I did a little work for him, he asked me how I got the big limb over the house down so quick, I said" I climbed up there and cut it fool". With all his education he had no sharp saws.
Now I don't want to bash but both of these guys( I only mention 2 so far) were certified and acted like king ****. Their operations were a joke, they sold jobs by yammering about how good they were and couldn't get it done without a guy like me. Listening to guys like this makes me ill because it is just as you say- you NEED to practice at your own risk. This is so you know how to apply techinques in real world situations and everything I ever speak off is based on that. Telling me you are certified does not mean a lot to me, although I can see its merit. I feel its like when you give a dumb nightclub bouncer authority to bash heads, he is going to take advantage.
I know what I say to be a real thing because my eyes don't lie and there is no reason for me to lie. I don't care what people think of me I know my techniques are safe and reliable. If you don't want a bad case of poison ivy then rig up to the truck, if you don't know what you are doing good luck.
Both of those idiots claim I am the fastest, cleanest, safest guy they have ever seen. Everybody who has worked with me says that and I am more happy to be able to help them than conceited. It is always a pissing contest; WHY?

 

[tree MDS]

Just gave you your third.

Thanks man I appriciate it. This thread is annoying to say the least, whats going on around here lately? I gotta go out but I'm gonna try to think of something for later.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

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[oldirty]

:notrolls2:

alright now what the hell is going on here?


any one who is a legitimate tree guy please stand up and be counted. this is starting to get a little funny and i dont mean in good humor.

using a truck to pull yourself into a tree? cmon!

 

[treemandan]

alright now what the hell is going on here?


any one who is a legitimate tree guy please stand up and be counted. this is starting to get a little funny and i dont mean in good humor.

using a truck to pull yourself into a tree? cmon!

someone mentioned that they would not trust anyone to pull them. I ask" shouldn't you be able to trust the guys you work with?".
Shouldn't you know how to do it safely? I don't see what is so wrong with doing it under those guidelines. Hey , if you think you might get hurt don't do it but to see how and when I do it might change your opinion.
If you can post something to change my opinion that would be good too.The way I do it seems no more dangerous than any other technique, ehh?
Most likely if a guy can't let a truck idle foreward in low lock and pay attention... If you base your opinion on " mistakes happen" then well we should all stop right now. If you base your opinion on what someone TOLD
you then you should just have a labotomy.
I don't think running 1 line through a crotch and hooking to a truck is a very good idea at all. Go ahead read my technique- I would appreciate good feedback.

 

[oldirty]

I ask" shouldn't you be able to trust the guys you work with?".

you should be able to trust them. should. doesnt mean i am going to let them run my saws. unless your my foreman and i have seen you from day one make chicken salad out of chicken sh1t.


no i will not let them pull my ass up a tree with a truck into the unforeseen branches and crotches. maybe belay me, bout it.


i trust them to drag brush or do what they are good at but definitely not pull me into a tree by a truck.


the only exception and i mean the ONLY one would be a monster pine that has been stripped out completely and i have to go back up top to buck it down. but hey if thats the case i wouldve bucked it down before i came down.

 

[treemandan]

you should be able to trust them. should. doesnt mean i am going to let them run my saws. unless your my foreman and i have seen you from day one make chicken salad out of chicken sh1t.


no i will not let them pull my ass up a tree with a truck into the unforeseen branches and crotches. maybe belay me, bout it.


i trust them to drag brush or do what they are good at but definitely not pull me into a tree by a truck.


the only exception and i mean the ONLY one would be a monster pine that has been stripped out completely and i have to go back up top to buck it down. but hey if thats the case i wouldve bucked it down before i came down.

9 1/2 times out of 10 I ascend under my own accord. In 17 years I have done it only a few times. Last time was a 150' poplar with a clear trunk up to 100 feet. The crown was huge and I wanted all my energy to knock it out, which I did. That was a fun tree.
As far as not trusting someone- I did say you have to know what you are doing and if you know you can't trust someone well that might stop me too. But along those lines- are these the same people responsible for lowering your limbs? If you let them do that they can drive allright- usually. I would rather have the truck thing than have them belay me .
So with that- No using the truck is fine, just as climbing out of a bucket into a tree. Doing it like a schmuck? Not good. That goes with anything even walking down the street. If you think its dangerous then you are not doing it right.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

I ask" shouldn't you be able to trust the guys you work with?"

I will not stand within 2 saw lengths of a running chainsaw either, no matter how good they are.

 

[treemandan]

I will not stand within 2 saw lengths of a running chainsaw either, no matter how good they are.

Yeah! I need more space than that! But go ahead" Forward!"

 

[oldirty]

So with that- No using the truck is fine, just as climbing out of a bucket into a tree..

i would have no problem with hopping out of the bucket.

 

[DDM]

I've actually seen this done on 2 occasions.So don't laugh its out there.

 

[Saw Bones]

i like to set my line real high with a throw ball and then tie one end to my saddle and the other to a rusty 1978 ford ranger. then i get the ground guy to gas it until i'm where i want to be. but i'm afraid one day he wont see me or be able to hear me yell and i'll get pulled over the limb and back onto the ground. do you guys think this is safe, or am i just plumb silly?

Job security for me. go for it.