MasterBlaster
TreeHouse Elder
How much do you weigh? And how often do you kick out?
Getting Gaffs
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tinman44
ArboristSite Operative
all i know is i have talked to every lineman i know. and so far everyone here has had different opinions. so i'm not sure how i'll decide. maybe i can try a few out somehow.
MasterBlaster
TreeHouse Elder
A lineman's idea of proper gaffs are different from a treeman's.
I need the length, I don't like to kick out. And I keep em sharp.
I need the length, I don't like to kick out. And I keep em sharp.
Tom Dunlap
Addicted to ArboristSite
Here's a link to a company that has the same kneepads as I have. I can't believe the price! $4.95!!!
http://store.onlineskatehouse.com/6922.html
They have some pretty good looking prices on blades and in-line skates too if anyone is interested.
All the usual disclaimers...I have no financial or personal connection to the company, blah, blah, blah
http://store.onlineskatehouse.com/6922.html
They have some pretty good looking prices on blades and in-line skates too if anyone is interested.
All the usual disclaimers...I have no financial or personal connection to the company, blah, blah, blah
Davidsinatree
ArboristSite Operative
I dont think i'v ever kicked out in my kliens.......thats what i love about'em....they STICK!!
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Koa Man
Kahuna giganticus
My steel insert velcro pads hurt from the get go. I used aluminum gaffs for a while and went back to Kleins, mainly because they really stick. I found the weight difference did not matter, it was unnoticeable.
Stumper
One Man Band
FWIW, I don't like the long Bucks I have-They seem to either sink too deep or not deep enough-If they go in farenough to be stable they are hard to pull out. If they don't go deep my foot is off the spar and the wiggle(and occassionally kick out). I have some short Kleins-they do work but peel bark more than I really like-I have to change my attack angle from what I am accustomed too-then they work okay. My firsts and favorites are my short gaff Brooks. The gaff is shaped differently from the Kleins-much broader-they grab pretty well in thick bark and superbly in thin bark. On the other hand I kicked out multiple times with the short Brooks on that nasty old powerpole I took down last week. I think that may have been the pole more than anything-hard spots mixed with surface cracking that wanted to scale off.
John Paul Sanborn
Above average climber
Justin, are they factory shrp, or have the been re worked? Could be a grind angle problem?
xander9727
The Silverback
This may be too confusing. Just buy a 110' over center bucket and forget the gaffs.
tinman44
ArboristSite Operative
what about the geckos? the look comfy and lots of ppl swear by them......well they swear in german but you know what i mean
MasterBlaster
TreeHouse Elder
xander9727 said:This may be too confusing. Just buy a 110' over center bucket and forget the gaffs.
Haha, yah there ain't that much of a price difference, eh? And trees never grow where a bucket can't get to it.
TheSurgeon
ArboristSite Operative
I'm with MB on this one. Long gaffs with my bucks, never kicked-out. Steel inserts will put less wear on your velcro wraps. I'll be goin with the geckos real soon though, always gotta try some new...
MasterBlaster
TreeHouse Elder
I'm just tired of having to duct tape them closed. My cads should arrive tomorrow.
Stumper
One Man Band
John Paul Sanborn said:
John, That is a very good question-I bought the Kleins and the Brooks used. My Buckinghams were purchased unused, The Kleins appear to be sharpened okay but I do not know, The Brooks are so good in trees I figured the problems on the pole were actually due to the pole's condition. It is interesting to note the differences in sharpening instructions between gaff makers.-One will say to only sharpen the shank side of the gaff, the next says never the shank side but always the other 2 sides.
xander9727
The Silverback
I use and like the longer gaffs. I have both but never use the shorter gaffs. I have trouble with the shorter gaffs cutting out.
MasterBlaster
TreeHouse Elder
No sheet. They're too short! Perfect for Sycs and poles.
Xtra
ArboristSite Operative
Paintball kneepads would work too, they are more flexible than skateboard or SWAT kneepads.
FYI: here's a site that reviews different models/brands
http://www.pbreview.com/products/cat/35/
FYI: here's a site that reviews different models/brands
http://www.pbreview.com/products/cat/35/
P_woozel
ArboristSite Guru
With gear maybe 210# sometimes go for months without kicking out, not that often and when it happens its not the end of the world. :umpkin:MasterBlaster said:
MasterBlaster
TreeHouse Elder
It you're not kicking out with short gaffs, cool. I seemed to kick out with them more than I like. With long gaffs I almost never kick out. I was refering to a weight/gaff length relationship. The more weight, the more gaff you need, IMO.
