Ok, after going thru this thread:
http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/185909.htm
and this one:
http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/186651.htm
I ended up buying a brand new in the box MS 361 from a guy who had purchased one new, never started or even fueled it up, and decided to sell it for $450.00:
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So in my previous threads, I had noted that this was going to be my first pro level saw, so go easy on me when reading how I messed up my saw before I had even paid for it.
When I went to get the saw, I was somewhat concerned that I might be getting a refurb, or other used saw, however when we opened the box it was obvious that the saw was brand spankin' new, and had not even had the tank filled yet. I opened the air box cover, etc and it was obvious this saw had not been started or even fueled.
So I was pretty happy, I had brought some fuel, and just wanted to start the saw quickly just to make sure it would start and run, without any obvious issues. I put in about half a tank of fuel, put on the choke and pulled the rope about a dozen times without starting. So we then opened the manual to read the starting directions
The manual, on page 8 it states "make sure the chain brake is engaged", well I do not normally do that (perhalps I should), but I went ahead and engaged the chain brake, and followed the rest of the directions for starting: put into full choke position, pull until you get a burp or start, then half choke then start. So after about 30 or more pulls, it finally primed, burped, and then started, so far so good ( do you see where this is going?
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So now the saw is running but for some reason, it wont rev up! I admit that I was kind of distracted by the thought I was getting this great deal on a great saw. So I'm giving it the gas, and I cannot figure out why the saw seems to be bogging out as if under load, when all of a sudden I smell and see smoke comming frome the side case! Then I figure it out! I left the stinkin brake on!
So I kill it and check the damage, there is now fairly substantial smoke comming from the area of the clutch and brake assembly. Pulled the side cover off and the clutch bell is very hot, not red hod, but hot enough that spit sizzled off it. Also the brake material has blown out from around the sides of the clutch bell
After releasing the brake and taking the chain off, I tried to free spin the clutch and it is pretty stiff, but at least it spins with some effort. I pulled the C clip off and tried to remove the clutch bell and it will not come off. There is some flaky looking stuff that looks like burn lubrication oil around the shaft where it exits the clutch bell.
So after admitting to the guy I had screwed up, I went ahead and paid him for the saw. I just got it home, and am now wondering what I need to replace? Im thinking obviously the brake or brake material, but am wondering if I might have fried the clutch bearings, or ????
The saw ran for about 30-45 seconds with the brake engaged as noted above.
How hard is it to replace the brake or brake material, any other suggestions (yeah I know, flame suit on!) ?
I did start and quickly run the saw after reassembling it and making sure the brake was off, and had no issues, and it ran as it should. Just ran it for about a minute though.
Thanks for any help, obviously the laughs are at my expense :msp_sneaky:
http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/185909.htm
and this one:
http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/186651.htm
I ended up buying a brand new in the box MS 361 from a guy who had purchased one new, never started or even fueled it up, and decided to sell it for $450.00:
View attachment 209309
So in my previous threads, I had noted that this was going to be my first pro level saw, so go easy on me when reading how I messed up my saw before I had even paid for it.
When I went to get the saw, I was somewhat concerned that I might be getting a refurb, or other used saw, however when we opened the box it was obvious that the saw was brand spankin' new, and had not even had the tank filled yet. I opened the air box cover, etc and it was obvious this saw had not been started or even fueled.
So I was pretty happy, I had brought some fuel, and just wanted to start the saw quickly just to make sure it would start and run, without any obvious issues. I put in about half a tank of fuel, put on the choke and pulled the rope about a dozen times without starting. So we then opened the manual to read the starting directions
The manual, on page 8 it states "make sure the chain brake is engaged", well I do not normally do that (perhalps I should), but I went ahead and engaged the chain brake, and followed the rest of the directions for starting: put into full choke position, pull until you get a burp or start, then half choke then start. So after about 30 or more pulls, it finally primed, burped, and then started, so far so good ( do you see where this is going?
)So now the saw is running but for some reason, it wont rev up! I admit that I was kind of distracted by the thought I was getting this great deal on a great saw. So I'm giving it the gas, and I cannot figure out why the saw seems to be bogging out as if under load, when all of a sudden I smell and see smoke comming frome the side case! Then I figure it out! I left the stinkin brake on!
So I kill it and check the damage, there is now fairly substantial smoke comming from the area of the clutch and brake assembly. Pulled the side cover off and the clutch bell is very hot, not red hod, but hot enough that spit sizzled off it. Also the brake material has blown out from around the sides of the clutch bell
After releasing the brake and taking the chain off, I tried to free spin the clutch and it is pretty stiff, but at least it spins with some effort. I pulled the C clip off and tried to remove the clutch bell and it will not come off. There is some flaky looking stuff that looks like burn lubrication oil around the shaft where it exits the clutch bell.
So after admitting to the guy I had screwed up, I went ahead and paid him for the saw. I just got it home, and am now wondering what I need to replace? Im thinking obviously the brake or brake material, but am wondering if I might have fried the clutch bearings, or ????
The saw ran for about 30-45 seconds with the brake engaged as noted above.
How hard is it to replace the brake or brake material, any other suggestions (yeah I know, flame suit on!) ?
I did start and quickly run the saw after reassembling it and making sure the brake was off, and had no issues, and it ran as it should. Just ran it for about a minute though.
Thanks for any help, obviously the laughs are at my expense :msp_sneaky:
