Granberg Double Ended Bar

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Picked up a bar on the cheap last week- old school Granberg double ender, guessing it is what they class as a 56 inch?
Not sure how they are sold or measured- but it is 1425mm overall- so my maths makes it 56 inches overall, actual cut length with the helper handle on would be around 48 inches.
IF it has ever been used (looks to not have been by lack of wear) it has been very low hours usage.
Price was right at $40 of our dollars, which works out to USD $22:38 or CAD $32:39.






Guessing it might mount up to the 125SP or 075.
12mm bar slot and a multitude of oil and adjuster holes, 0.063 gauge.
Guessing by the mounting holes it was meant for the old steel Granberg mill frame?

 

[J D]

Nice find, any plans for it?
The end of the slot & one of the holes doesn't look quite right... might just be the pic, or might be that it's been altered to fit something

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Nice find, any plans for it?
The end of the slot & one of the holes doesn't look quite right... might just be the pic, or might be that it's been altered to fit something

Plans- well fit it to a big old saw and make some slabs I guess.
Might just be the pic- look pretty uniform and unaltered to me.

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

I know these have Granberg branding and were sold with mill kits etc- but does anyone know who actually made and supplied these to Granberg?
I see the modern ones are GB double ended bars- but these predate those.

 

[StoneyMeadowMaple]

I have one, we use it with a pair of 390’s be extremely careful with that, if one saw quits it gets dragged along by the second and you will be out a saw very quickly. I forgot what it cost new but a couple hundred anyway.

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

I have one, we use it with a pair of 390’s be extremely careful with that, if one saw quits it gets dragged along by the second and you will be out a saw very quickly. I forgot what it cost new but a couple hundred anyway.

Will only see single powerhead and helper handle use here.
The deep belly 56"GB one, new on the shelf here retails at $956:80- thats the bare bar without the helper handle with roller- you add another $281:06 of ours for that.

 

[Bill G]

Picked up a bar on the cheap last week- old school Granberg double ender, guessing it is what they class as a 56 inch?
Not sure how they are sold or measured- but it is 1425mm overall- so my maths makes it 56 inches overall, actual cut length with the helper handle on would be around 48 inches.
IF it has ever been used (looks to not have been by lack of wear) it has been very low hours usage.
Price was right at $40 of our dollars, which works out to USD $22:38 or CAD $32:39.






Guessing it might mount up to the 125SP or 075.
12mm bar slot and a multitude of oil and adjuster holes, 0.063 gauge.
Guessing by the mounting holes it was meant for the old steel Granberg mill frame?

That ole gal looks similar to one I sold .................

 

[Bill G]

By the way Bob that was a helluva good deal you got

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

By the way Bob that was a helluva good deal you got

Yep- didn't REALLY need it- but for that asking price I was not going to let it pass neither!
Helped I was due to drive past the guys front gate to get to an airport.
Just happened to be the same guy selling it that sold me my 125SP.

 

[muddy42]

Amazing, that's 120cc territory. I wonder what it would be like with a 120cc saw at each end?

Ive found you can get some older saws at decent prices for milling, especially as you don't necessarily need some of the modern safety or comfort features for milling, like AV or chain brakes.

 

[StoneyMeadowMaple]

Amazing, that's 120cc territory. I wonder what it would be like with a 120cc saw at each end?

Ive found you can get some older saws at decent prices for milling, especially as you don't necessarily need some of the modern safety or comfort features for milling, like AV or chain brakes.

I think it would be overkill, with 390’s it’s decent, you can lean into it with hardwood and they oil Both ends of the bar. The 3120’s would let you really push but I think you would be sacrificing the quality of the finished product, it would tend to be rough and less true.

 

[muddy42]

I think it would be overkill, with 390’s it’s decent, you can lean into it with hardwood and they oil Both ends of the bar. The 3120’s would let you really push but I think you would be sacrificing the quality of the finished product, it would tend to be rough and less true.

Its pushing or 'see-sawing' that causes the rough texture not the power. Try arranging your timber on a slope or a pulley system powered by a handle or even better a weight and gravity. Like this, I can get smooth wood with a standard cross cutting 30 degree chain.

No such things as overkill (!) It can be done (granted this is an 8 ft bar):

 

[StoneyMeadowMaple]

Its pushing or 'see-sawing' that causes the rough texture not the power. Try arranging your timber on a slope or a pulley system powered by a handle or even better a weight and gravity. Like this, I can get smooth wood with a standard cross cutting 30 degree chain.

No such things as overkill (!) It can be done (granted this is an 8 ft bar):

Right, my point was that you have all the chain speed available and sufficient power to maintain it with 2 88cc saws, so 2 120cc saws would be just a waste of fuel, particularly on a 56” bar. Don’t get me wrong here, I like the cool factor, but it’s extra weight hanging off the bar and more fuel.

 

[muddy42]

Right, my point was that you have all the chain speed available and sufficient power to maintain it with 2 88cc saws, so 2 120cc saws would be just a waste of fuel, particularly on a 56” bar. Don’t get me wrong here, I like the cool factor, but it’s extra weight hanging off the bar and more fuel.

I think we'll have to disagree here. UK fuel is amongst the most expensive in the world, but I've never worried about its cost, being such as small cost overall. Finished timber costs are crazy high too, so milling makes sense overall.

I do admit that I tend to use bigger saws across the range than most people, but I cut really hard knotty branchy knarly wood like oak. My single Stihl 088 sometimes feels underpowered milling with the 52 inch bar in oak (plus aux oiler). If I had a double ender bar like this, I'd buy another old 120cc for it.

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Amazing, that's 120cc territory. I wonder what it would be like with a 120cc saw at each end?

Ive found you can get some older saws at decent prices for milling, especially as you don't necessarily need some of the modern safety or comfort features for milling, like AV or chain brakes.

Yeah already have the 95-125cc powerheads covered.
Its not a huge bar- remember it only allows for about a 48 inch cut maximum once powerhead and helper handle are fitted and we do not have much in the way of hardwood trees to mill here.

 

[StoneyMeadowMaple]

I think we'll have to disagree here. UK fuel is amongst the most expensive in the world, but I've never worried about its cost, being such as small cost overall. Finished timber costs are crazy high too, so milling makes sense overall.

I do admit that I tend to use bigger saws across the range than most people, but I cut really hard knotty branchy knarly wood like oak. My single Stihl 088 sometimes feels underpowered milling with the 52 inch bar in oak (plus aux oiler). If I had a double ender bar like this, I'd buy another old 120cc for it.

It’s like towing a row boat with a dually, it certainly does the job well, but not better than a 1/2 ton. Personally, I prefer milling with 1 saw and always have my eye on a 3120.