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[Tree Pig]

Hmmmm...I dunno, maybe it's just me. I still read it as if Logger was giving you flack for not wearing a helmet.

I had read in a post, I think in a different thread about the sweat in your eyes, that's why I initially made the comment about it. I also could see in the pictures that clearly there wasn't much over your head that would catch you, again, like you stated, the reason for no helmet.

I tossed the little bit in about the $200 cuz I thought that would be a shamefully low price for someone of your obvious skill level. <---no sarcasm.

I thought you would have noticed, but I probably made it too subtle. Again, I apologize. From now on, I will point out when/if I'm being sarcastic.

My deepest apologies,

Jeff

I did catch the sarcasm and didnt take offense, I just had to clarify for others that may not

 

[Garden Of Eden]

I did catch the sarcasm and didnt take offense, I just had to clarify for others that may not

I'm sorry. I guess that's one of the drawbacks to internet. lol

I'm going to have to start watching where and when I get sarcastic. Thanks for everything,

Jeff

 

[Tree Pig]

I'm sorry. I guess that's one of the drawbacks to internet. lol

I'm going to have to start watching where and when I get sarcastic. Thanks for everything,

Jeff

No worries, I knew what you meant.

Thanks for the reply

 

[Garden Of Eden]

Oh, and I got to seriously practice climbing...I got lots of "hard" knowledge. lol

I climbed about 75-80 feet about 30 times or so. I think I can tie the blakes like blindfolded in my sleep now. lol I run it of my carabiner with a bowline, seems to cinch nicely. I can see a couple things to watch for but it's nice to have that extra little security while spiking, it made it easier to learn I think. Now, I just have to watch my flipline, I'm thinking of getting a new one.

I dropped the pine, right exactly where I wanted, measured back-lean, had power co. remove lines, and started to pray. lol Cut slowly, and wedged, seemed to work good.

I appreciate everything.

Jeff

P.S. I'll post pics soon

 

[Tree Pig]

Oh, and I got to seriously practice climbing...I got lots of "hard" knowledge. lol

I climbed about 75-80 feet about 30 times or so. I think I can tie the blakes like blindfolded in my sleep now. lol I run it of my carabiner with a bowline, seems to cinch nicely. I can see a couple things to watch for but it's nice to have that extra little security while spiking, it made it easier to learn I think. Now, I just have to watch my flipline, I'm thinking of getting a new one.

I dropped the pine, right exactly where I wanted, measured back-lean, had power co. remove lines, and started to pray. lol Cut slowly, and wedged, seemed to work good.

I appreciate everything.



Jeff

P.S. I'll post pics soon

cool, yeah man got to have pics. I spike with a climb line when ever I can (doing removals) it make things much safer and you can swing out if you have too.

Toss a micro pulley under your friction hitch and a groundie can tend you slack for you on the climb line.

 

[fishercat]

i must be cpmpletely unprofessional.

i make all my cuts without a helmet.ALL OF THEM.damn thing gets in my way.i wear it on a snowmobile and the motorcycle.i never wear a seatbelt.this is America,not France so mind your own business.if the man doesn't want to wear a helmet,so be it.

if you're worry about the cost of healthcare,go chase down all the illegals in this country and lecture them.

i'm in Michigan now so i'm taking my helmetless skills nationwide!

 

[Tree Pig]

i make all my cuts without a helmet.ALL OF THEM.damn thing gets in my way.i wear it on a snowmobile and the motorcycle.i never wear a seatbelt.this is America,not France so mind your own business.if the man doesn't want to wear a helmet,so be it.

if you're worry about the cost of healthcare,go chase down all the illegals in this country and lecture them.

i'm in Michigan now so i'm taking my helmetless skills nationwide!

LOL +1 for Fishercat.

 

[UrbanLogger]

ANSI Z133.1 - 2006 Safety Requirements:
Section 3.4.1 - Presonal Protection equipment (PPE), as outlined in this section shall be required when there is a resionable probability of injury or illness that can be prevented by such protection. Training shall be provided in the use, care, maintenance, fit and life of personal protective equipment.

Section 3.4.2 - Workers engaged in arboriculture operations shall wear head protection (helmets) that conforms to ANSI Z89.1. Class E helmets shall be worn when working in proximity to electrical conductors, in accordance with ANSI Z89.1. Workers shall noe place reliance on the dielectric capabilities of such helmets.

And yes, I did read the your first post saying something about no over head work, blah blah blah.... how about a saw kick, or that piece you are chunking down some how falling the wrong way, or slipping and gaffing out and slamming your head into the trunk, or maybe just plain falling? That sounds like "a resionable probability of injury or illness that can be prevented by such protection" to me.

You obviously don't work for(or own) a TCIA accredited company or TCIA membership, most likely don't have a CTSP, and I hope your not certified because you could actually lose a certification for practicing "unsafe arboriculture".

 

[UrbanLogger]

I'm not trying to be an @$$ I just cant stand reading about, or seeing guys in the news that got killed or hurt by doing something that could/should have been provented by something as stupid as wearing a helmet with a dew-rag under it, it a Petzl Vertex vent that breaths...

 

[Tree Pig]

ANSI Z133.1 - 2006 Safety Requirements:
Section 3.4.1 - Presonal Protection equipment (PPE), as outlined in this section shall be required when there is a resionable probability of injury or illness that can be prevented by such protection. Training shall be provided in the use, care, maintenance, fit and life of personal protective equipment.

Section 3.4.2 - Workers engaged in arboriculture operations shall wear head protection (helmets) that conforms to ANSI Z89.1. Class E helmets shall be worn when working in proximity to electrical conductors, in accordance with ANSI Z89.1. Workers shall noe place reliance on the dielectric capabilities of such helmets.

You obviously don't work for(or own) a TCIA accredited company or TCIA membership, most likely don't have a CTSP, and I hope your not certified because you could actually lose a certification for practicing "unsafe arboriculture".

I guess we disagree on how unsafe it was and I work for myself. Taking the CT test most likely this fall so Ill glue a helmet to my head after that for you.


Dew rag would have been the better answer I agree, but I didnt have one with me and I made the call that I would be safer seeing what I was cutting since nothing was overhead, cutting blind seemed the bigger risk. The petz vent is most likely my next purchase for that exact reason. I dont disagree with the always wearing a helmet rule, its better to be safe then sorry. But it is what it is and it all worked out. I posted the disclaimer on why so I wouldnt get blasted but I guess you cant please everyone.

Thanks for your input.

 

[fishercat]

Ansi shmansi.

ANSI Z133.1 - 2006 Safety Requirements:
Section 3.4.1 - Presonal Protection equipment (PPE), as outlined in this section shall be required when there is a resionable probability of injury or illness that can be prevented by such protection. Training shall be provided in the use, care, maintenance, fit and life of personal protective equipment.

Section 3.4.2 - Workers engaged in arboriculture operations shall wear head protection (helmets) that conforms to ANSI Z89.1. Class E helmets shall be worn when working in proximity to electrical conductors, in accordance with ANSI Z89.1. Workers shall noe place reliance on the dielectric capabilities of such helmets.

And yes, I did read the your first post saying something about no over head work, blah blah blah.... how about a saw kick, or that piece you are chunking down some how falling the wrong way, or slipping and gaffing out and slamming your head into the trunk, or maybe just plain falling? That sounds like "a resionable probability of injury or illness that can be prevented by such protection" to me.

You obviously don't work for(or own) a TCIA accredited company or TCIA membership, most likely don't have a CTSP, and I hope your not certified because you could actually lose a certification for practicing "unsafe arboriculture".

they don't pay my bills and i didn't ask for their help or advice.they seem to stay out of my way so i'll stay out of theirs.

you wear whatever you like,i'll not wear what i don't like.

 

[masiman]

Hey, one day I asked where in VA Masiman was from. PM'd back and forth a bit before finding out his oldest son is in the same grade as my oldest daughter at the same school, second son is same grade as my second daughter, his third son and my third daughter start kindergarten together next year. So we met up and went to the GTG in WV together a couple weeks ago. Still waiting to do a job with him and see how our climbing styles differ. Hope to meet some more people from the site in person. You have to share at least some some of the same traits if you're both on the site very often.

Yeah that was pretty cool.

The night we were PM'ing we had just been at the same school function and didn't know each other. Ha ha, and now here I am taking secret deliveries of gear so he can hide it from his wife (j/k).

I'm the better looking one of the two of us :greenchainsaw:

 

[Blakesmaster]

I'm not trying to be an @$$ I just cant stand reading about, or seeing guys in the news that got killed or hurt by doing something that could/should have been provented by something as stupid as wearing a helmet with a dew-rag under it, it a Petzl Vertex vent that breaths...

Obviously you've never worked. I have the vetex vent and I still sweat like a mofo. I wear it all the time on the job and make sure everyone on my crew's got a hat as well but what someone else does on their job is their own business.

 

[Blakesmaster]

By the way, stihl, you should probably wear a hardhat.

 

[Blakesmaster]

See, there's nicer ways to say things.

 

[Tree Pig]

By the way, stihl, you should probably wear a hardhat.

lol, since you put it so nicely I think I shall. If I had to guess I would bet that UrbanLogger is book trained with no practical or working knowledge.

 

[ropensaddle]

Im the best looking tree man there ever was, and my hat says husky on it.

I am a husky man can't beat the ladies off with a stick wife said I was the best lookin wood cutter she has ever seen, I also still have all three teeth lmao

 

[Tree Pig]

I am a husky man can't beat the ladies off with a stick wife said I was the best lookin wood cutter she has ever seen, I also still have all three teeth lmao

How about your fingers and toes?

 

[UrbanLogger]

If I had to guess I would bet that UrbanLogger is book trained with no practical or working knowledge.

Actually I had at least 5 years on the job before I ever took any class in arboriculture/forestry, and another about 5 after, so yeah maybe about 10 yrs as an Arborist, maybe not that long as compaired to some of you guys, but I've never been allowed to be on a job site with out my brain bucket. Even when working with a very small 3 man company. "Safety knows no season" as an old friend of mine says. I now work at least 50 hrs a week for a TCIA acredited co, along side a CTSP, and am currently trying to become a CTSP myself. We would never even consider working with out a helmet.

I do agree that it is often safer to see what u are doing, than not be able to see. But what ever what you do isn't my business, I guess some people don't think others are entitled to their opinions, what ever. Sorry I tried to express my concern for your safety/well being.

 

[ropensaddle]

How about your fingers and toes?

Yeah all intact almost got one finger in a car door and cut my arm in half on glass but they still function. I also in truth have more than 3 teeth was just being funny.