Hand Saws,,

[Lumberjack]

Originally posted by TreeCo
I've been using hand saws for 20 years. I bought a silky zubat about a year ago.

The zubat is a great saw.

Dan

+1

But I have only used them for about a month now... the thumbnail is almost back.

 

[xander9727]

I'm going to say it first. Do not try and torment Rocky. I see that some of you are hypersensative to his comments. He was giving an opinion as a professional arborist of his peers. I do not necessarily agree with this or many of his other statements but it was not a personal attack. Do not get the idea that he is somehow held to a higher standard than any other member. He served his time now let him start over as if he never bunched anyones panties before. Rocky often contributes a lot of good information to this site. Just because he makes his point in a harsher tone than you would or may like doesn't make him wrong. General statements while usually a bad idea are not to be confused with personal attacks. Get a straw and suck it up! Were supposed to be adults here. Not everyone will see things the same.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Yea, your right, Xander. Why show common courtesy and respect to people? Manners? Pshaw! We don't need em here! Lets just say what we will, and call it 'personality'.

Add a little color to the forum, eh?

 

[NickfromWI]

After switching from a corona to the silky, I missed the hook that the corona had on the handle (you can see it at the bottom of the handle in the pic)

I found it super handy when making cuts with the saw upside down.

However, I got over it. I considered swapping the zubat blade onto a corona handle, but I think the unhooked handle encourages me to let the saw to the cutting and not my muscles.

love
nick

alright, i couldn't get that link to work. I must go to bed anyway. if you need to see the pic, do a google search on corona hand saw

 

[OutOnaLimb]

When all my gear got stolen a few weeks ago, I had to replace the bare essentials out of my own pocket untill the money from the insurance company came in to pay for all new gear. The things that I had on my list of nessessities, were a saddle, buckstrap, climb line, rope snap, split tail, Silky Zubat and a Stihl MS200t. Since then I have started picking up all the knick knacks that make climbing easier and more efficient, but the one thing I will not climb with out is a Silky hand saw. I used to just carry the super excell folding saw on my saddle and used it quite abit, but now that I have that zubat, I rarely haul up that 200 into a tree on light pruning jobs. Just be warned, if your not used to it you will shed more than a few drops of blood on your climb line from it cuttin so quick and smooth. I got a nice one on my finger today when I was pulling it out of the scabbard.

IMO Silky is the Jaguar of hand saws. You can pay a lot less for a Fanno or a Corona, but you will just be cheating your self in the long run. The time and energy it saves is well worth the extra 30 bucks.:Monkey:

 

[rahtreelimbs]

Originally posted by OutOnaLimb
When all my gear got stolen a few weeks ago, I had to replace the bare essentials out of my own pocket untill the money from the insurance company came in to pay for all new gear. The things that I had on my list of nessessities, were a saddle, buckstrap, climb line, rope snap, split tail, Silky Zubat and a Stihl MS200t. Since then I have started picking up all the knick knacks that make climbing easier and more efficient, but the one thing I will not climb with out is a Silky hand saw. I used to just carry the super excell folding saw on my saddle and used it quite abit, but now that I have that zubat, I rarely haul up that 200 into a tree on light pruning jobs. Just be warned, if your not used to it you will shed more than a few drops of blood on your climb line from it cuttin so quick and smooth. I got a nice one on my finger today when I was pulling it out of the scabbard.

IMO Silky is the Jaguar of hand saws. You can pay a lot less for a Fanno or a Corona, but you will just be cheating your self in the long run. The time and energy it saves is well worth the extra 30 bucks.:Monkey:

Got that right !!!

 

[Koa Man]

I guess I can brag here. I have been using a Silky Zubat and Ibuki since October 2003 and haven't cut myself yet. I did get a couple of cuts when I first started using the ARS handsaws a few years ago. Since then I have been very careful to keep body parts away.

 

[OutOnaLimb]

I swear I zap myself every day with that thing. Usually when I am just taking a quick swipe to cut a sucker and it goes through the sucker and down to either my leg or arm. It doesnt take much, but just tapping your self with that blade will leave a nice little offset pattern left in your skin for a week or so. I have definately gotten a lot more cautious with the loss of blood though.:Monkey:

 

[jimmyq]

gotta vote Silky. Fanno and Corona in the toolbox as well but the two silkys get the bulk of the work, gotta watch that follow thru, they cut so dang fast.

http://www.bigbeartools.com/

my local Silky supplier (remember guys, this is in Canuck bucks)

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

Originally posted by Guy Meilleur

re handsaws, Iused a Silky a few times; love the power but not enough finesse. I'll stay with the Corona until a more powerful blade comes along with good touch. If it doesn't, maybe a Silky to use on trees where power is needed more than touch.

I'm betting you were using an Ibuki. It's large and made for speed, to much so for my taste. The Zubat would have you smiling and throwing all your other saws and blades away, even if they were never used.
The price comparision others made is stupid too, because Silkys last longer. So it's like saying a pint of milk is a better buy than a gallon because it's cheaper.

As far as Rocky goes, he has always taken the time to help anybody that posts, even the obvious idiots who don't belong here (a site for pros).
He only said something to the effect that you can tell the quality of a climber by the quality of his tools. There's something to that.
In the short time RJS was gone, the quality of the posts on this site dropped off.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Originally posted by Mike Maas

In the short time RJS was gone, the quality of the posts on this site dropped off.

So this is a site for 'pros only'?

 

[SilverBlue]

Mike the quality of posts have not dropped, more likely it your comprehension has waned since you bought that husky comparable to going from a zubat to a fanno

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

LOL!

MB,
It's called COMMERCIAL Tree Care and Climbing, so yeah that means pro.

 

[Koa Man]

Originally posted by Mike Maas
He only said something to the effect that you can tell the quality of a climber by the quality of his tools. There's something to that.

I agree. I tell my customers, "I can tell the quality of the work a climber is going to do just by what he is taking with him into the tree. If he is not carrying a handsaw, he is not going to do fine pruning." I carry a handsaw and a hand pruner for the 1/2 inch and smaller stuff.

 

[xander9727]

Originally posted by TreeCo
It's a good thing we have an off topic forum or else I guess we would be discussing oatmeal on the Commerical Tree Care and Climbing forum.

Dan

HEY! Oatmeal is serious stuff. It's how I start my day, without it I would..........I don't know what I'd do but I'm sure it wouldn't be good.

 

[Guy Meilleur]

Originally posted by Koa Man
I carry a handsaw and a hand pruner for the 1/2 inch and smaller stuff.

Oh yeah, Felcos in the pouch on most every tree. And I'm going to stop at the saw store tomorrow and check out the zubat; thanks Mike for a noninsulting prod to a dinosaur.

Oatmeal season is about over now that spring is nigh; time for granola instead.

 

[TreeJunkie]

First the type of hand saw one uses is no evidence of quality gear or a quality climber/arborist...All my gear is top notch, A hand saw is just a quick wear item,, and it's something which has always been supplied for me...So why not take the freebie,,,,leaves me with more cash to buy other toys What is wrong w/ this????? Sorry i might be on a gear budget here...I'm not too sure who's buying your gear but if your'e getting paid as i do, then you don't necessarilly jump at the chance to buy the most expensive item out there....

 

[xander9727]

If a tool allows you to do a job more efficently, faster, better, with less hassle, etc. it makes you money. Time and effort are what you get paid for. If you can do something in less time or with less effort for the same money you are making money. You are not wasting money on gear but investing in it. With any investment you expect a return. Your already getting a return on your current investment. Is it worth it? After all it's your time and energy. I realize my opinions aren't always popular but I really do try and live by my signature.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

Tree Junkie,
If it looks like a duck, it sounds like a duck, and everybody at Arboristsite says it's a duck, it's a duck!

The very next thing you should have to say on the subject is, "Gee, you guys were right, Zubat is the best!"

 

[MasterBlaster]

Ha!

I concur!