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[showrguy]

Use a double wall slip connector with double wall pipe. The slip connector works a bit like a periscope in that you can slide it up easily. That section should connect to the ceiling support box. Then the all-fuel will connect on the top side of the ceiling support box.

Chris

Hi Chris,
I'm posting a picture of my messy house area, the wife sells that damm 31 stuff that all these women blow there money on, so it's currently scattered about...
Anyway, the location I'm thinking for the stove is next to the fireplace (on the right) where that coat tree is
I thought a picture would explain my install better than typing a description..
BTW Chris, I'm gonna be spending a bunch of money on this, and it's all your fault........for starting this thread.....lol
sorry about sideways picture ...

 

[showrguy]

And your supposed to be fishing !!!

 

[showrguy]

These guys are in my yard.........since I had the camera out..
I forgot to post this earlier..

 

[showrguy]

I think I figured out how to fix the picture ??

 

[bkvp]

Nice Billy and Marty the Moose! So if you place it there, you will need to make certain of all your clearances to combustibles. You most definitely will be using black double wall on the inside.

AF for your taxidermy, you may wish to run a humidifier. Wood stoves tend to wreak havoc over time. You don't want to have it so dry ask to ruin your mounts.

Chris

And yes we are going fishing in the a.m.

 

[Deleted member 135597]

These guys are in my yard.........since I had the camera out..View attachment 439687
I forgot to post this earlier..

Winner winner turkey dinner

 

[Marshy]

These guys are in my yard.........since I had the camera out..View attachment 439687
I forgot to post this earlier..

Little bastards. The wife caught one taking a dirt bath in my garden yesterday.

 

[Marshy]

@bkvp, what size flue is needed to support the king model? I did some calling around to my local dealers and had one guy told me that my 8x8 clay lined masonry chimney would be too small. It has an 8" thimble btw.
Last I checked the king called for 8" round flue. 8x8 square has more area than a 8" round... Am I missing something?

 

[Highbeam]

Welcome to this site BKVP. We need all the west coasters we can get.

 

[bkvp]

8" double wall inside. You probably will need an insulated liner. They are usually 9" or more in diameter.

@bkvp, what size flue is needed to support the king model? I did some calling around to my local dealers and had one guy told me that my 8x8 clay lined masonry chimney would be too small. It has an 8" thimble btw.
Last I checked the king called for 8" round flue. 8x8 square has more area than a 8" round... Am I missing something?[/QUOT

 

[showrguy]

8" double wall inside. You probably will need an insulated liner. They are usually 9" or more in diameter.

Howd' fishin go ???

 

[cigmaker]

I second the fishing question... I also pose the question can you handle normal people asking you about more than can I use a 6 inch flue for a king?

 

[Marshy]

8" double wall inside. You probably will need an insulated liner. They are usually 9" or more in diameter.

If I installed a insulated liner into my clay lined chimney wouldn't it reduce the size significantly, down to 6"? The chimney goes up through the center of the house and so the masonry is not exposed directly to the outside air. It's behind siding inside it's own "chimney well" all the way to the peak.

I read read the king manual that said it should draft 0.05-0.06 inwc. Couldn't I measure the draft with a manometer and call it good if it drafts enough? If it's too much I could add a damper but draft is te main concern right?

 

[bkvp]

Wife showed me up again in front of the guys. We did get four nice halibut yesterday.

As for the King model running on 6", not a good idea as 99% of the time smoke will come out into the room when you open the loading door.

I might add, the top end Btu's and low end Btu's are not much different between a King and a Princess model. Add In the additional expense of a 8" venting system and slight additional cost for the King model, most folks should consider the Princess model. The Princess is the number one model sold in the interior of Alaska where lows can be -60F.

 

[bkvp]

If I installed a insulated liner into my clay lined chimney wouldn't it reduce the size significantly, down to 6"? The chimney goes up through the center of the house and so the masonry is not exposed directly to the outside air. It's behind siding inside it's own "chimney well" all the way to the peak.

I read read the king manual that said it should draft 0.05-0.06 inwc. Couldn't I measure the draft with a manometer and call it good if it drafts enough? If it's too much I could add a damper but draft is te main concern right?

Well it's not always about how much w.c.". The by pass opening on the King is about as large a we can go and even a super 6" system just won't work well.

One of the major necessities for great performance is heat loss. As manufacturers push up efficiency, draft becomes more complicated and harder to obtain. We all know that a thermal efficiency of 85% reduces greatly the ability for a given appliance to draft successfully. Power vented systems are on the horizon, a few are already on the market, but they are very costly.

Given your chimney, you would probably have better performance with a Princess. You could even try to run on the system you have and if it still requires refining then you can consider a 6" insulated liner. If you go with the King, I am certain you will run into issues due to your chimney as you described it.

 

[Idahonative]

Like others have mentioned, everyone's situation is different. We own a seasonal business so when we work, we work long hours. We can easily be gone from 7:30am-10:30pm. We burn pine so having a stove we could set up on a 24 hr. reload schedule (even on the coldest days) was important to us. During our busy season, we really get worn out physically and just don't want to spend a lot of time messing with the stove. We didn't want to come home to a cold house either.

I know we would have been happy with the Princess as well. It's just, given our circumstances (wood type & schedule), having the ability to burn 24 hrs. on pine was top priority. It really came down to how much we wanted to work at keeping the house warm...and we didn't want it to be work.

As far as the 6" flue: I want to make sure I'm not giving people the wrong impression. 8 inch is most definitely what you should run with the King. We had the 6" already there from our previous stove so we wanted to make it work with the King (to save money). FOR US, it has worked just fine. Yes, if we try to open the stove with a full load of fuel we will have smoke spillage. But we don't do that since we reload every 24 hrs. When we reload, there is a nice mound of coals for restart but they don't produce a lot of smoke.

And we have never had the cat stall because of poor draft.

Just our experience.

EDIT: I edited the first line of the last paragraph. I screwed up...it should have read "8 inch is most definitely what you should run with the King.

 

[Gavman]

Hey there, Welcome to the site.
Im about to enter my third season on a Princess, the more square modern looking one... Its been a great stove hands down, I fill it up at 5am and she is good till 7ish if I do get home that late.
My one complaint and its a good one is that just inside the firebox at the top, the guts or mechanics of the stove hang down maybe an inch below the top of the door lip and it gets a little frustrating when I am going for the full load and the wood fits through the door but then hits the lip...
Not a deal breaker by any means but it is annoying....

 

[bkvp]

That area is called the dome and the two bolts hold the stainless steel dome guard in place. In our newer models, the dome area is raised up a bit, addressing your observation.

I am glad you are enjoying your stove!

 

[ChoppyChoppy]

Hey there, Welcome to the site.
Im about to enter my third season on a Princess, the more square modern looking one... Its been a great stove hands down, I fill it up at 5am and she is good till 7ish if I do get home that late.
My one complaint and its a good one is that just inside the firebox at the top, the guts or mechanics of the stove hang down maybe an inch below the top of the door lip and it gets a little frustrating when I am going for the full load and the wood fits through the door but then hits the lip...
Not a deal breaker by any means but it is annoying....

I have a few scars from being burned on that darn lip! Couple times I've hit it hard enough that I had to make sure the stove didn't get pushed back.

I normally only empty the ash out maybe once a month or longer since it means turning on the gas heat for a day or two to allow the stove to go cold. (Otherwise the hot ash dust makes a big mess..floats around all over the house)

When it's close to full I try to get every little piece of wood in there.

I do have the ash pan dealio, but it makes a even bigger mess.

 

[Highbeam]

I have a few scars from being burned on that darn lip! Couple times I've hit it hard enough that I had to make sure the stove didn't get pushed back.

I normally only empty the ash out maybe once a month or longer since it means turning on the gas heat for a day or two to allow the stove to go cold. (Otherwise the hot ash dust makes a big mess..floats around all over the house)

When it's close to full I try to get every little piece of wood in there.

I do have the ash pan dealio, but it makes a even bigger mess.

You know, I just started using the ash pan on my ultra this last year in an effort to minimize dust in the house. It has some limitations, biggest being that only a couple inches of ash will fill the thing to the top. However, I don't wait for the stove to go cold. I do it right before a reload. The secret is to leave the ashes in the ash pan until they are cool and settled. This is just so that you can take them outside without stirring the ashes. So dump the ashes into the pan, then restart your fire, get it going good and cat engaged, and then go back and pull that ash pan outside.

If you let the belly of the stove fill with ash then the ash pan might be more hassle than it is worth but for occasional dumps of 2" it's not bad. Cleaner than an open bucket with warm ashes.