Hello !!!!

[ProblemTree]

Hello All Im new to this exciting forum. I have a couple of trees i want to remove. I might need some help along the way from the experience it is apparent you guys here have.I figure i will buy me some spikes probably 2nd hand then a climbing belt and a couple of ropes. My 1st question is what would be the best chainsaw for occasional use?

 

[Tree Machine]

Welcome to Arboristsite, Problem Tree.

The best chainsaw, in my opinion, is a new one. You get a warantee, you know it's history and it'll start the same pretty much every time. It requires very little maintenence early in it's life. The bar is new, the sprocket is new, the chain is new. Nothing on it should give you a hard time. This is what you need as a beginner, a saw that doesn't infuriate you with the problems and wear and tear created by a previous owner.

If you buy a used one, you just really never know. Until you become familiar with different chainsaws and how to work on them, I would avoid a used saw.

 

[treeguy347]

Welcome! If you're not going to service the saw yourself, make sure you're comfortable with the dealer wherever you buy your saw. Don't go light on quality. You'll be much happier in the long term with longer life, fewer problems, etc. if you spend the $$ upfront on good stuff. For the climbing gear, the ONLY thing I would ever consider buying used is spikes, just make sure the straps are in good condition and they are sharpened properly. Improperly sharpened spikes are more likely to kick-out. Buy everything else climbing related brand new and no other way. You may think you're saving a few bucks going used, but the history is always iffy. Gear may have been shock-loaded or exposed to chemicals, or many other factors making it unsafe that you don't know about. It never pays to take chances with you life just to save a few bucks.

Hope you enjoy the forum. There's a wealth of knowledge here, don't be afraid to ask questions.

 

[treeseer]

Read these before you shop for a chainsaw.

There are many tools that can be used on trees. the most important one is between your ears.

http://www.treesaregood.com/treecare/tree_benefits.aspx

http://www.treesaregood.com/treecare/tree_values.aspx

 

[Munkee feet]

Hello problem tree. I too am new to this exciting site. I started with a small 12 inch McCullach (Mac 3200) and with in a year I was buying a commercial climbing saw (Still 020)...for me it was an issue of $$ but if you can afford I would get good right off the bat and not waste your time. As for all else...I agree with the comment to get NEW so that it is trustable. Tom

 

[hobby climber]

Hi Problem tree & welcome to AS.com!

First off, asking questions is a good first step. Now lets clarify what you need! Are you looking to bone up an what you need so you can get started in the tree business or do you just want a couple trees taken down on your property???

If its just a tree or two on your property, then maybe it would be cheaper to hire someone (in the know), to do for you! If your here to learn how to climb and maybe want to get into this business...then you've come to the right place!

If you could takes some pictures and post them here, I'm sure we would be able to offer you better advise with your trees. So please clarify your intentions so we can offer you a proper response.

Thanks for your question and we look forward to seeing more of your posts in the future! HC

 

[ProblemTree]

Im still looking at saws.But i have found a pair of tree climbers im thinking of getting if they dont go to high. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...50032396021&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1 Are these good ones?

 

[hobby climber]

Problem Tree,

You still never answered my question! Are you looking to just take down a few trees OR are you looking to pick our collective brains and start your own tree business ? HC

 

[ProblemTree]

That depends on how well i like taking these couple down i have 1 at my house and a couple at relatives.

 

[hobby climber]

How about posting some pictures of your trees.

No need to be blowing money on equipment just yet until you know what you need for the job!

There are lot of very informative books & web sites that will answer many of your questions. You must have stumbled across some of them before finding this site!

Many folks here are very willing to help you in any way they can. But to often we get the odd joker, or "Trolls" as we call them in here and it just makes it harder for others to bother offering there help!!!

To be frank with you, this is a very dangerous profession and many before us have been injured and even lost their lives by simple mistakes. Think about this for a moment...Your asking us what chainsaw to take with you up a tree that your going to climb. You should learn to climb before taking a saw up with you!!! Do you understand where I'm coming from? Anyone here, IMHO would be somewhat premature to suggest a saw for you until you learn to climb first!

So what do you say...do you want to learn the ropes the right way OR just enough to get yourself hurt or killed?

Safety first and always. HC



PS- :notrolls2:

 

[ProblemTree]

Heres the one in my brothers yard only one i have a picture of.

 

[Tree Machine]

Problem Tree,

You still never answered my question! Are you looking to just take down a few trees OR are you looking to pick our collective brains and start your own tree business ? HC

Good job, Hobby. Get right to the heart of the matter.

Another good thing for a noobie to know is that the cutting down of the trees is the easy part. Dealing with the debris is most often the bigger issue- how to get rid of brush and limbs. It's a strategy thing and depends on what kind of gear you have (trailer or chipper or pickup) to get rid of the stuff. Almost everyone either starts with a trailer or has a trailer in their tool arsenal. Having a legitimate place to go with the debris or chips is the next issue. Then, you are on to another job. That's TreeBiz 101.

Have you contemplated how to rid the debris?

 

[ProblemTree]

let me try this again.

 

[DDM]

O Boy that will be interesting!

 

[Tree Machine]

Im still looking at saws.But i have found a pair of tree climbers im thinking of getting if they dont go to high. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...50032396021&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1 Are these good ones?

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That's too small, wait a sec....

 

[Tree Machine]

There.

Those are called cadillac pads. And removable gaffs. Those were worn by someone who takes their climbing rather serious. Thats's kind of an advanced pair, just this side of the high-end titanium ones. Those pads are touted to be the best, most comfortable, though probably hot in the Summer heat.

You do know that we only spike when the tree is being taken down. On living trees, when pruning no spikes are used. We are tree climbers, not tree spikers. We are Tree Care Professionals and pocking a bunch of holes into the cambium is not part of 'care'. You have to take the oath and then go on double secret probation.

 

[Tree Machine]

What was that oath, Hobby Climber?:biggrinbounce2: :biggrinbounce2: :biggrinbounce2:

 

[hobby climber]

Does anyone else smell that...smells like a Troll !



If not, Problemtree, let me say this....ARE YOU NUTS!!! Now tell me you don't see a problem with your questions. I see issues with that tree already, house(s), liability, insurance- have it or don't have it, a guy asking us if we can help him pick out a saw to take up that tree with him and then asking us our advise on how to climb. etc.....

You must be a troll because who in there right mind would ever consider taking on a tree like that alone and untrained in how to climb! This is to much of a stretch to swallow even from a newbie!

:notrolls2: :notrolls2: :notrolls2:

I call TROLL on this one !!! HC

 

[ProblemTree]

I didnt say i was going to tackle it in one day but eventually i think it would be a great triumph to be able to handle it on my own.Didnt everyone here start somewhere?

 

[gasman]

let me try this again.

http://arboristsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=38033&d=1158286802

Holy smack! Can that be the Gasman's first tree to climb? What chainsaw should I use? My wife said she would help me on Saturday afternoon while the baby was napping.