Hello !!!!

[rbtree]

There.

Those are called cadillac pads. And removable gaffs. Those were worn by someone who takes their climbing rather serious. Thats's kind of an advanced pair, just this side of the high-end titanium ones. Those pads are touted to be the best, most comfortable, though probably hot in the Summer heat.

I'm not sure I follow, Tree Machine. Those are nothing more than Kleins with the about the worst pads you can get. Certainly not Caddy pads!! Which are the rigid aluminum and foam ones.

 

[diltree]

wow

Where do these people come from?????Yeah buddy: your gonna pick up some gear on ebay and cut down a 36"plus dbh oak over two houses......Have fun!!


www.dillontree.com

 

[hobby climber]

RbTree...you beat me to that point. Not caddy's is right!

Another thought abut the tree. Question I have is how long have the houses been there and do they have a basements...how deep is the foundation? If they are new homes and DO have a basement...one could assume that some root damage may have occurred. We can't see the rest of the tree from the pic to know for sure. If this were a legitimate post we would have to know a lot more information and the properties history in order to offer a qualified assessment, IMO. HC

 

[hobby climber]

diltree,

Yes this guy IS a troll and was flushed out quickly! But even with his bogus post...we are still learning from it. ex)- WE now know those are not caddy pads, the tree is much more involved than some thought, cabling may be an option as opposed to removal, etc!

The only good thing that a troll can do is post a picture because its worth a thousand words. It also gets all of us talking about some different ideas or approaches in dealing with this tree. This is the only reason this thread is still getting folks to post...we are still learning from it! HC

 

[Tree Machine]

OK, not caddy pads. I stand corrected.

I upgraded my spurs with those thick, felt pads like shown in the pic. I thought I was buying caddy pads. I got them in April and used them in late August. They're pretty nice from what I see so far.

So, are the caddy pads aftermarket add-ons, or are they specific to the model that sports em?


And Treeseer, that list is beautiful, just excellent. Could I plaigerize that some time? Man, if people are debating whether or not to take out a tree, come back with an assessment like that and the tree wins, slam dunk! Another tree saved. Then the arborist gets the task of making it safe for the long term and pruning to enhance. That is what we do.

See, we get the work one way or the other.

That house would bake in the South Carolina sun without that tree.

 

[Tree Machine]

I say, did you know.....

(unsolicited trivia coming up)


That Live Oak, Quercus virginiana, weighs more than ANY other wood, as listed in a table of weight of green logs?

 

[Bermie]

I say, did you know.....

(unsolicited trivia coming up)


That Live Oak, Quercus virginiana, weighs more than ANY other wood, as listed in a table of weight of green logs?

More than Casuarina??? (Casuarina equisetifolia) Maybe Ekka would have an idea of the weight, it's damn heavy.

 

[hobby climber]

TM,

"tree safe" ??? I seem to recall a conversation with you & treeseer(GM) in an Ohio hotel room that mentions that one can never make a tree safe...just safer!!! The above statement would make for a great thread!!!


The caddy pads are not a brand name or anything like that. Its just what folks call the "Aluminum Pads". I had a few different types in the past and found that the Aluminum Pads are the very best I ever owned! (the Cadillac of pads or caddy pads)! Prices vary quite a bit so shop around. I got mine 2 years ago from West-spur. They were selling them for $67 before tax & shipping but I've seen them go for over $90 at other places! They do come in different sizes/shapes so make sure you tell them how big a leg you have! HC

 

[treeseer]

Jim the list is yours and the world's. It could be longer. I got it from where, I forget, and adapt it to use when I need it. Which is often.

O and live oak is definitely heavier than Casuarina. I've lifted enough of both to know. (groan)

o and the basement-damage theory is kinda sketchy. not that many basements in SC, and anyway live oak roots don't tend to seek them out and destroy them.

I get a lot of calls about big trees and foundation damage and I always say if you fear that, just get out a shovel and dig. If you find a root threatening the foundation, cut it. No huge deal, if you don't go crazy and take out too much at once.

next week I'll be digging then airspading a 4' dbh white oak's roots where they are cracking a foundation, then pruning the roots. I'll try to get my camera up by then (dang lens is stuck open--anyone ever have that with a fuji?)

 

[hobby climber]

basement damage...

Sorry I wasn't clear about the basement thing. I was refering to new home construction where a contractor will dig a foundation with basement and do root damage if to close to a tree.

I've seen this before on occasions where you have a basement foundation 10"from a tree on one side and an in-ground pool 8' on the other side.

To make matters worse, the homeowner removed some of the top soil and added crushed lime stone with patio stone over top. Any rain water that ever made it to the tree roots did more damage than good! The PH was so high it may as well been acid rain! Tree was a 32" dbh ash...poor thing never stood a chance! HC

 

[Bermie]

Treeseer, I've used your text

Treeseer,
I have cut and pasted your tree value text from a couple of posts ago, I thought it very timely as we are currently in a furore here over plans of the Gov't to build the new hospital in what is currently the Bermuda Botanical Gardens. It's too detailed to go into here but suffice to say several priceless HUGE specimen trees will be demolished along with historical collections and display houses.
I hope you don't mind, and any more anecdotes, quotes facts etc from anyone will be greatly appreciated and will be used as ammunition because it will be a war!
Regards all
Fiona

 

[lees trees]

saw your picture

You better get a pro

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

I say, did you know.....

(unsolicited trivia coming up)


That Live Oak, Quercus virginiana, weighs more than ANY other wood, as listed in a table of weight of green logs?

Let me help qulify is statememnt..

Any North American wood. I know Linum vitae and Ebony have a specific gravity greater then 1. eg they sink in water...when dried.

 

[Stumper]

...and there are North American woods not on the chart such as HopHornbeam, Desert Ironwood etc. thta will outweigh Quercus V. . My memory fails as to which is actually denser but Osage Orange an Live Oak are very close.

 

[hobby climber]

Hey guys...a new member has posted!!!

Welcome to AS.com "lees trees". HC

 

[lees trees]

heavy wood

try black olive. harder to cut than iron wood and old dry live oak. Just found site yesterday. Thanks for the welcome

 

[Baz]

problem tree

You want to tackle that for your first tree?!? You're braver, smarter and/or crazier than I am.

 

[Bermie]

Let me help qulify is statememnt..

Any North American wood. I know Linum vitae and Ebony have a specific gravity greater then 1. eg they sink in water...when dried.

Casuarina sinks in water, as soon as you cut it! Blub, blub.

 

[SteveBullman]

i say cut the guy some slack.
go to sherrills mate, they sell everything you'll need for getting down easy trees like that one on your first attempt. do let us know how it goes though, or better still get someone to video the whole thing!!

 

[Ekka]

I cant find any green log charts.

I know that the oak is very heavy.

Casuarina is heavy. This chart shows 960kg/m3 but that is dried.

http://www1.aiatsis.gov.au/ASEDA/docs/0729-Kamminga-timber.doc

Be careful searching the net as many wood places are giving you seasoned wt not green fresh cut like we do all the time..

This site it's air dried wt.