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Are there any of you guys out there runnin home brewed bio-diesel? Pro's/Cons? Would like to make my own for runnin the old powerstroke and the kubota. Found a kit for 1299.00, is that a fair price for a bio set-up?:monkey:
 
I dont use it. But I know Boston tree Preservation in woburn Mass. does. they had an article in tci not to long ago. Contact them.
 
Are there any of you guys out there runnin home brewed bio-diesel? Pro's/Cons? Would like to make my own for runnin the old powerstroke and the kubota. Found a kit for 1299.00, is that a fair price for a bio set-up?:monkey:

I found that you can run up to 75% percent used veggie oil with 25% regular diesel with no problem in a ford 7.3 powerstroke. Just filter the crap real good. I was using a 50/50 mix last summer as in winter you have problems. It is a hassle and a stinking mess and I don't think if you just make what you need you are ahead of the game unless you need a heck of a lot of fuel.
 
Anythings Possible

Thanks for the info dan. The mix you speak of dosnt supprise me on the 7.3 ford. Ive heard that the 7.3, the cummins 5.9(a ford patented design-dodge use), and the mercedes civi diesels are bullet proof and will run on almost anything! In kit form(tanks,pump and filters) looks like i can get started for bout 1200.
 
What exactly do you need? Why new pumps and tanks. The filter I can see. I've heard you need a simple preheater hooked into the fuel system to warm the bio first. Sounds easy.

I've been interested in this too. Diesel has hit 4 bucks in places. I drive a gas pickup now and always wanted a diesel but I don't know now a days.

What's your plan for collecting the oil? Local small restuarants? Will the big names play along? Where does all of that used oil go anyways? They pay to get rid of it. Then what is it used for? Very interesting stuff.
 
Thanks for the info dan. The mix you speak of dosnt supprise me on the 7.3 ford. Ive heard that the 7.3, the cummins 5.9(a ford patented design-dodge use), and the mercedes civi diesels are bullet proof and will run on almost anything! In kit form(tanks,pump and filters) looks like i can get started for bout 1200.

No, No , No. I just filter the wvo through some home water filters and a water separator . I use 35 gal plastic drum which I bought used for 10 bucks apiece. I use a lot of filters and run it through 2 times. The set up was under 200 bucks. This is not bio- diesel it is just adding old deep fryer oil to diesel.
It is a real pita ( I am getting cool now) to acquire used oil and it is messy and smelly. Pound for pound not really worth the ag unless you make a whole lot. Bio is the same way- if you have nothing better to do...
It is like when homeowners try to do their own tree work; a big scary mess that might cost more than leaving it alone. I am not saying you shouldn't but if you don't have a suitable place you're wife will say " get that the F out of here and do something about that smell and is that a rat I see?
For real, it is possible and just adding the oil seems to work, for me. You always find contradictions. I started adding little by little to my tank based on what I have read. I did no modifications, it needs a preheater for cold weather, it quiets the motor and smells like crap. Haul all that oil and you might go back to the pump. Nobody I know wants it in their motors. but the idea in very cool. It is a good idea for when the pumps stop pumping which should be any day .
I have a 94 model year engine I was burning it in, I would not put it in my chipper.
 
Are there any of you guys out there runnin home brewed bio-diesel? Pro's/Cons? Would like to make my own for runnin the old powerstroke and the kubota. Found a kit for 1299.00, is that a fair price for a bio set-up?:monkey:

check out this site..... i remember reading in the paper about some guy that was running old french fryer oil in his old mercedes wagon.... but there was a kit involved, with a second fuel tank... this site has a lot of pros and cons...

http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html
 
check out this site..... i remember reading in the paper about some guy that was running old french fryer oil in his old mercedes wagon.... but there was a kit involved, with a second fuel tank... this site has a lot of pros and cons...

http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html

Yes, I read that some time ago. You will find that everybody contradicts everybody else( kinda like here) but more so with this bio diesel thing. I stopped the whole thing and now use what they sell at the pump.
You bet it was smokey! Just until it got hot then it was fine. Only reason I tried it was my injector pump and injector o rings were allready beat. I fixed it over the winter and am sticking to regular diesel. Either way you it is going to cost you.
 
Biodiesel/ WVO

Preciate the info guys. Just bought a book tonite on the subject. Talked to a buddy who's been a diesel man for a long time. He drives a 91 f350 w a mech. inj. 7.3 eng. In the summer he reliably runs a 50/50 mix of filtered wvo and diesel and gets great mileage to boot. He said when its cooler he runs 75%diesel and 25% wvo. Hes even ran straight oil in the summer but that would clog the injectors in the winter. He then said he just bought a mid 80s mercedes sedan diesel and is tryin to configure a tank and a way to warm the oil. I told him we could use an aftermarket tranny cooler(they handle coolant,engine oil,tranny fluid,and diff cooling as well-fyi). The cooler will go on the inside of the homemade tank and the lines will protrude,on the ends well have barbed fittings, then rubber supply and return lines to the radiator! The engine at start up will run on the reg tank of reg diesel,once the engine's up to operating temp. the radiator will have heated the tank of fresh bio veg in the auxillary tank, he'll flip a switch,the aux. inline pump will fire and VOILA the mercedes will speed away for about a buck per gallon! He say's man, that's probably gonna be a great idea. Talked to someone else and they said we're right on, most all the kits available are set-up this way. A little messy, and a little bit of a pain but so is the 3.89 a gallon i just payed in knoxville tonite. I dont see it gettin better. We'll just have to keep it low key, because i've heard-fyi- that we may be taxed soon on the home brewed bio as well!
 
I am at the first stage for using WVO. I have gotten some of those 55 gallon drums for holding the stuff but need to set up agreements with local restaurants in order to have a steady supply. I have the 7.3 and will use the oil straight in its own heated tank setup with a switchover to purge the lines and keep the injectors from clogging. Keep it low key whatever you do and dont put a lot of money into it because you know the fed will start to get involved and shut things down. Thankfully I havent seen any major housefires attributed to a homeowners biodiesel/wvo setup. The Meth labs still top that list!
 
Check out this site

yep, the meth guys are goin up in smoke like cheech n chong! Hey there is a fantastic site you should check out on the diesel stuff,very informative! JOURNEYTOFOREVER.COM all the ins and outs, complete plans and photos for home built systems and all.
 
well I know that you can run used transmission fluid cut 70/30 in the summer and 50/50 in the winter. I save the fluid from the cars I service and mix it in a holding tank that rides around in the back of my truck. Need fuel just grab the hose and pump it in. The truck runs really well and it like the Synthetic fluid best. I get 2 gal per trans service. so I get about half a tank per week. Works out very well and cuts fuel cost to less than $2.00 a gal. its only 3.90for diesel here. no special filters required just change your pre filter often and be on time with your main filter.
 
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Problem with home brew around here is so many people are trying to make it there isnt enough veggie oil to go around.But soon new veggie oil will be cheaper than diesel.
 
Treemandan is right ,the pumps more than likely will stop sooner or later. Was watchin a show on Hist channel other day and it was called countdown to doomsday.Very good but kinda scaweey! The analysts were sayin the worlds fuel supply will run out totally between2035 and 2040,if we don't do somethin now. So have a backup plan guys! Ican see us now..... Pardon me mam do you mind if i charge up my electric bucket truck while i reduce the crown on this maple! :buttkick:
 
well I know that you can run used transmission fluid cut 70/30 in the summer and 50/50 in the winter. I save the fluid from the cars I service and mix it in a holding tank that rides around in the back of my truck. Need fuel just grab the hose and pump it in. The truck runs really well and it like the Synthetic fluid best. I get 2 gal per trans service. so I get about half a tank per week. Works out very well and cuts fuel cost to less than $2.00 a gal. its only 3.90for diesel here. no special filters required just change your pre filter often and be on time with your main filter.

Woodchuck, what are you running it in? We are up to 4.09 in the Heart of it All. How did you find out you could run transmission fluid? Will it hurt your injectors? I will be setting up my F-350 to run on WVO. I have seen and heard several guys doing this w/ their 7.3's instead of making biodiesel. I think I will set up an auxillary tank in the bed for the veggie oil but it sounds like several of you just mix it in with the diesel and pour/pump it in the main tank.
 
run it in a 90 mercedes 2.5 turbo diesel mechanical injectors
98 dodge 2500 12 valve. no problems. I have heard of guys that run heating oil it there diesels but never done that.
 
Veg Oil

There's a lot to read from the veg oil forum at www.frybrid.com, and check out the resources link. There is some good diagrams there. We are also in the 1st stage of the conversion process with our truck(94 Dodge 3500 Dually)- getting parts for the conversion. We're doing a 2 tank system utilizing the coolant lines in the truck to heat the Veg fuel lines as a heat exchange. This allows you to use 90% Veg in the colorado winters... Also, Flat plate heat exchangers are critical to achieve the proper temp. frybrid has a great diagram of the coolant line heat exchange. lots of your towns also have co-ops set up to mass filter veg oil.
 

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