How long is your VT?

[tophopper]

Its still a split tail system without the second biner, I just dont like the slop in the system with 2 biners. Anytime you pull down on the working end of your line and your hitch goes slack, it hangs slightly. When using only one biner, because the line is terminated to the biner(with the hitch) there is always upward pull on it, so it doesnt flop down as low, it also keeps everything lined up real.
I dont throw my rope often and when I do Ill clip on a throwbag or make a coil.

 

[Jim1NZ]

All good points. I am only talking about a 5 to 10 ft. throw. Is that considered too much?

To be honest mate i wouldn't, i use a small crappy crarbina and a Harrison rocket throw ball, or coil the same as tophopper.

Thing is if you get it stuck, its just such a mission to get the other end of your rope and set up that etc.

 

[NickfromWI]

Have you been climbing with that bee line for a year and a half? Thats pretty impressive. Tenex lasts me maybe a month and ultra tech probably 3-4 months.

No- sorry, I misled you. I have 2 hitch cords that I've switched back and forth between for the last year or more. One was the beeline and the other is vectran.

love
nick

 

[NickfromWI]

Why do you prefer the Blaze over Yellow Jacket?

I bought tenex because its relatively cheap, but I do prefer ultra tech for a hitch.

If you know the length you need, why wouldn't you splice the ends? Those double fisherman's knots get so bulky on a carabiner.

Blaze is an 11mm rope, about 2mm smaller than the normal half inch climbing line. Less weight to carry to and through the tree.

I like spliced hitch cords, too, Kentucky..for the same reason you state. It can be an expensive habit....unless you're doing it yourself!

love
nick

 

[NickfromWI]

Its not the best to be throwing your climbing carabinas around the tree,

For one, constant impacts on the carabina increases wear, is hard on the gate and increases the chance of hair-line fractures that you might not see.

Seciondly its way too easy to get the bina stuck in a tight crotch.

I use 10 mm double braid on my French prussic that is about 60cm long with the knots already tied.

Hairline fractures? Prove it.


I leave the carabiner almost all the time. The weight IS useful and when it's not enough, I clip on a 12oz throwweight. You can tell by looking at a crotch if you should take the 'biner off. And if it DOES get stuck, I'll stay tied in where I am, and use the stuck biner to pull myself over!

love
nick

 

[KentuckySawyer]

No- sorry, I misled you. I have 2 hitch cords that I've switched back and forth between for the last year or more. One was the beeline and the other is vectran.

Still, thats a great life span. I tried to order a bee line prussic cord from Sherrill, but they're out. Couldn't find any on the OK. Arb. Supply site.


I toss my biner as a throw weight a lot. I've gotten it stuck enough to know when its too likely to get stuck. Its steel so I don't worry too much about damaging it with a few bumps against the trunk. But when you catch it in the teeth a couple times, you'll rethink that technique.

 

[TreeJunkie]

Call Ok arb supply directly. I know he has it in stock. He hasn't updated the site yet though...

 

[okietreedude1]

Still, thats a great life span. I tried to order a bee line prussic cord from Sherrill, but they're out. Couldn't find any on the OK. Arb. Supply site.

TJunkies right. I have it in stock at $1.60/foot. I also sell it 48" precut, whipped and tied w/ double fish for $12.50. This cord also can be spliced but I am not able to splice it.

If you want some, feel free to drop me a pmail or email and Ill have it out Monday.

 

[CoreyTMorine]

Is it safe to go to REI and buy some 8MM utility line with which to tie an MT?

found it HERE

 

[pantheraba]

I terminate everthing to the same carabiner and double fishermans are not a problem for me....Heres a pic of my hitch set up- vt variation, tied with HRC.

That is a very clean set up...much less busy than what I often use.

Is that a small pulley on the biner that the working end runs through?

Can you post a picture from a different angle?

 

[rbtree]

Hairline fractures? Prove it.


I leave the carabiner almost all the time. The weight IS useful and when it's not enough, I clip on a 12oz throwweight. You can tell by looking at a crotch if you should take the 'biner off. And if it DOES get stuck, I'll stay tied in where I am, and use the stuck biner to pull myself over!

love
nick

I agree with ya, Nick.. I see absoutely no problem with throwing a line with biner attached. At most the toss will be 15-20 feet, no biner will be hurt from impacting a tree at those distances.

 

[mikecross23]

I agree with ya, Nick.. I see absoutely no problem with throwing a line with biner attached. At most the toss will be 15-20 feet, no biner will be hurt from impacting a tree at those distances.

I agree with ya rbtree. . . . who agrees with Nick. . . . Throw that biner where you need it!
But Nick, how in the heck does a hitch last that long? Is the cord you use that much better than sta-set (which I use)? Or do you not come down on your friction hitch? I'm on my second hitch cord for the week.
I would like to give the bee line a try.

-Mike-

 

[KentuckySawyer]

I'm on my second hitch cord for the week.

-Mike-

Maybe you need to slow down. I'm waiting on 30' of bee line from Okie. Can't wait.

 

[tophopper]

I got a sample piece of beeline to try out, so far I like even more than HRC.

 

[KentuckySawyer]

The stuff is very heat resistant. I could barly cut it with a cherry red knife. I've got high hopes.

 

[okietreedude1]

The stuff is very heat resistant. I could barly cut it with a cherry red knife. I've got high hopes.

Reason being the yellow colored fibers are technora. Its very good stuff!