How many enjoy removals more than the tedious nature of pruning?

[no tree to big]

I haven't read a word of this thread yet but I will take removal any day me and my whole crew hate trimming not cause we can't do it but because there's not enough action... we are blessed to be able to do nearly 95% removals through out the year until Dec Jan and feb when city trimming kicks in.
Monday I have about 35 or 40 ash trees to go flop I'll enjoy every second of it!

 

[DLCRL]

I once had a guy approach me on my lunch break asking if we were hiring and telling me how good of a climber he was. He was going on about how all the best climbers in our state capital knew each other and were friends. Then he said "We all work for different outfits but we all smoke the same weed after work!" Wow! Way to put your best foot forward, buddy!

I obviously didn't hire him. Not because he smokes pot but because I don't hire idiots.

I agree w/you, guys who get stoned on a regular basis have short term memory loss, which has huge potential for mistakes.

 

[jomoco]

Sorry newbie, but you're the one whose faulty short term memory's already required hospitalization once already on the job.

Bad karma's a real butt kicker when yu push it's envelope!

Talkin smack often leads to gettin smacked, by Budha himself, who reveres trees, live trees, to hang out under.

jomoco

 

[DLCRL]

Sorry newbie, but you're the one whose faulty short term memory's already required hospitalization once already on the job.

Bad karma's a real butt kicker when yu push it's envelope!

Talkin smack often leads to gettin smacked, by Budha himself, who reveres trees, live trees, to hang out under.

jomoco

I was over worked had lot on my mind, you condone getting stoned on a regular basis and working in a highly dangerous profession?? I've a friend who drives deliveries if you get in an accident one of the first things you do is submit to a drug test, that pretty much means if you imbibed drugs anytime in about 30 days, I think, your results will show and you no longer have a job, regardless of how much it might be the other guys fault.

 

[jomoco]

More like I'm still not entirely convinced you ain't a rookie, spoutin BS, and leading an extremely charmed existence as a removal pro?

Do you have a GRCS or Hobbs device, bull lines n blocks, etc?

Or does your Boss provide those things for your 100 buck an hour expertise too?

jomoco

 

[DLCRL]

More like I'm still not entirely convinced you ain't a rookie, spoutin BS, and leading an extremely charmed existence as a removal pro?

Do you have a GRCS or Hobbs device, bull lines n blocks, etc?

Or does your Boss provide those things for your 100 buck an hour expertise too?

jomoco

I provide all my own blocks etc. I've not purchased a GRCS, I tend to use blocks slings and a bobcat, swinger etc. w/a port-a-wrap, one of the books I read is "the art and science of practical rigging" I learn how to set up a 5 to 1 mechanical advantage. I'm my own boss why do you think I make those kind of figures, it's because they can turn me loose by myself or even w/one guy and get things done. Even large removals.

 

[mike515]

I was over worked had lot on my mind, you condone getting stoned on a regular basis and working in a highly dangerous profession?? I've a friend who drives deliveries if you get in an accident one of the first things you do is submit to a drug test, that pretty much means if you imbibed drugs anytime in about 30 days, I think, your results will show and you no longer have a job, regardless of how much it might be the other guys fault.

I don't care if guys smoke pot on their own time but I've always said that the very first time I see it on the job...you will be fired on the spot...no matter how good you are.

That being said....I don't smoke pot or do any other illegal drugs But I'm going to tell you a few things about myself and it might seem like I'm bragging but...down south there is a phrase...it ain't braggin' if it's true.

The company I started with had 39 crews in my state. I was consistently the #1 producer and when I wasn't, I was always in the top 3. When I was in college (full time...doing tree work on the weekends and also in the evenings while doing trees full-time) I carried a 3.98 gpa. I was on the #2 ranked college boxing club in the US. I won 2 state martial arts championships and many regional gold medals (only lost one match ever). I turned down two different professional kick-boxing organizations who wanted me to turn pro (back before MMA). I started my business and became the biggest in our area. I've never had an insurance claim or a "lost time injury" on a crew. Wait for it.....I smoked weed almost every single day back then.

I quit years ago simply because I didn't want to do it anymore. So no....I don't have a problem with pot smokers and I don't buy into the myth that they are under-achievers or otherwise prone to making mistakes. But just keep it on your own time.

 

[jomoco]

I'm still trying to get over the best paid removal man I've bumped into online, doesn't have a hobbs or anything comparable?

Does he speed line even?



jomoco

 

[DLCRL]

I have, but most of the time the house is in the way or we're in the front yard, most of jobs it's not very practical, I can get similar results to GRCS w/a bull rope and a block or two and log moving equipment w/a port-a-wrap tied off to it. No matter which company I work w/there's always log moving equipment.

 

[mckeetree]

I provide all my own blocks etc. I've not purchased a GRCS, I tend to use blocks slings and a bobcat, swinger etc. w/a port-a-wrap, one of the books I read is "the art and science of practical rigging" I learn how to set up a 5 to 1 mechanical advantage. I'm my own boss why do you think I make those kind of figures, it's because they can turn me loose by myself or even w/one guy and get things done. Even large removals.

Please, don't anyone call DLCRL a boastful little prick. This place is too clean for that.

 

[mckeetree]

And we haven't even mentioned PHC. There is more money in that than removals or pruning.

 

[gorman]

And we haven't even mentioned PHC. There is more money in that than removals or pruning.

Yep, way more money, repeat business, and a fraction of the overhead.

 

[jomoco]

I thought about becoming a state certified chemical applicator way back in the early 80's.

Then I met one in person, noted right away he exuded a faint but detectable odor of nasty chemicals, like a roofing tar mopper exudes the odor of tar, in line at the bank?

Braces can fix orthopedic frailness to a working level in this biz, fortunately, but cancer from chemicals?

It's bad enough breathing in sycamore fuzz during certain seasons of the year without adding chemical residue to the long list of crap a climbing arborist breathes in over his career?

Man's gotta know his limitations, especially when sycs get dirty n hairy.....

jomoco

 

[jomoco]

Just outta curiosity?

Do any of you climb without bandannas?

I seriously doubt I've ever worked a tree without one, as I make it a rule to carry two at all times!

They make great tourniquets too.

jomoco

 

[DLCRL]

I thought about becoming a state certified chemical applicator way back in the early 80's.

Then I met one in person, noted right away he exuded a faint but detectable odor of nasty chemicals, like a roofing tar mopper exudes the odor of tar, in line at the bank?

Braces can fix orthopedic frailness to a working level in this biz, fortunately, but cancer from chemicals?

It's bad enough breathing in sycamore fuzz during certain seasons of the year without adding chemical residue to the long list of crap a climbing arborist breathes in over his career?

Man's gotta know his limitations, especially when sycs get dirty n hairy.....

jomoco

I've heard sycamores are nasty, in 23 years I've only seen 4 or 5 in this state, so it's just when they "fuzz" I'm guessing that means full of pollen, that you need a respirator?, or do you need one for whenever you're cutting?

 

[mike515]

I've heard sycamores are nasty, in 23 years I've only seen 4 or 5 in this state, so it's just when they "fuzz" I'm guessing that means full of pollen, that you need a respirator?, or do you need one for whenever you're cutting?

I just creates a big dust cloud around the chipper and makes you sneeze and makes your nose run. I hate it.

 

[jomoco]

You need to be somewhere else when those syc balls get furry and burst, that's for sure!

I've watched poor groundies puke their guts out tryin to chip limbs in a dust cloud of the stuff, regardless of which level respirator filter they were usin?

They cough the crap up for days afterward!

The key's to keep your head up wind regardless of whether you're pruning them or chippin em?

If the wind ain't blowin at all? Reschedule it till the wind blows again!

jomoco

 

[jomoco]

There's a species of tree called a cow itch tree, native to Australia I think, that while rare here in SoCal, were prevalent enough for me to bump into and suffer the consequences of getting a bit of their dust on my bare skin.

Just like fiberglass particles! You learn real quick to prune them from far away, upwind with a polesaw?

We used to keep cow itch dust in a sealed can for fixing rookies wagons who talked smack on the job.

One of you Aussie's know the Latin for a cow itch tree?

Looks somewhat like a small New Zealand Xmas tree, or metrosedaris?

A tree that once you've bumped into once, will never forget!

jomoco

 

[DLCRL]

I just creates a big dust cloud around the chipper and makes you sneeze and makes your nose run. I hate it.

is it dangerous I've heard you're supposed to wear a respirator?

 

[mckeetree]

I thought about becoming a state certified chemical applicator way back in the early 80's.

I've been one since 1981.