How would You Customize a 395XPG?

[kf_tree]

Not trying to talk any sawbuilders out of a job, but someone who is going to be forcing dull saws into dirty wood by the very nature of their work, is not in my mind a good potential customer for the kind of modifications usual here. I have two modified saws and they do go; I would not like to see that kind of a saw bogged. That is not where they shine.

very good point.......

 

[rahtreelimbs]

I always equated a modded saw to a Ferrari. Unless it is kept in top condition,well maintained and ran properly you will never appreciate the performance gains!

 

[kf_tree]

I always equated a modded saw to a Ferrari. Unless it is kept in top condition,well maintained and ran properly you will never appreciate the performance gains!

i always equated a modded saw to a cummins diesel...........

 

[rahtreelimbs]

i always equated a modded saw to a cummins diesel...........

Yeah but a Cummins diesel doesn't rev!!!

 

[wagonwheeler]

Cummins Diesel implies torque to me, not high rpm HP.

Can't the saw builders build for torque and longevity? Often the first pitch on mods is that it increases life over the heat-trapping EPA requirements. It seems the conditions he describes are even more reason to have it modded for torque and long life. Or don't saw builders do that?

I've been under the impression that modded saws are still built to be used, not just run in clean wood at GTG's.

Chaser

 

[rahtreelimbs]

Cummins Diesel implies torque to me, not high rpm HP.

Can't the saw builders build for torque and longevity? Often the first pitch on mods is that it increases life over the heat-trapping EPA requirements. It seems the conditions he describes are even more reason to have it modded for torque and long life. Or don't saw builders do that?

I've been under the impression that modded saws are still built to be used, not just run in clean wood at GTG's.

Chaser

Woodsaws, as the name implies, are modded/built to run all day. They do have torque and longevity. A square ground chain of some degree and a little carb tweaking is all that is usually required for GTG's.

 

[wagonwheeler]

So what makes this guy 'not a good potential customer'? He's gonna run his saw hard. It's gonna get dirty. The chains gonna get dull. And?

Chaser

 

[Joseph]

So what makes this guy 'not a good potential customer'? He's gonna run his saw hard....snip....

Yes, Gentlemen,

Why do some of You Think I would not be "a Good Potential Customer"?

Regards

Joseph

"The Potential Customer"

 

[Crofter]

Big difference between running a saw hard, and forcing a saw with dull chain.

I spoke about the kind of modification usually considered here on AS that improves cut time and productivity for a woodsaw. Joseph's application does not seem parallell does it.

 

[user 1817]

i call this one shirley.....becuase there is only one like it and this one is mine.

I had to show my wife this post so she could see I wasn't the only one that names their saws.

 

[Crofter]

Joseph, I had to go back and look at my original post. I did indeed say "someone who,---------would not be a good potential customer-------.

My apology. It seems like you want to do everything properly for your application and use your equipment professionally. I should have referred to your application as perhaps not being the most suited to theusualmodifications considered here.

My concern is that the application you describe usually results in lugging a saw. The chainsaw is air cooled, with the cooling air being supplied by the flywheel fins: slow that down considerably and you handicap cooling.

While opening the exhaust eliminates backed up heat there and contributes to freer running, modifications designed to increase and shift power to a higher rpm range might create cooling problems if you did not allow that saw to operate at those higher rpms to provide the fan cooling power that must go with the increased output.

I think that modifications for your application might need to be different than the usual modifications considered here on AS. Lets see if any of the engine builders voice an opinion on the pros or cons or special mods that your application might benefit from.

 

[DanManofStihl]

I got walkers to mod my 066 and they did a great job I love the look of their muffler mods. I would highly recommand them I think they do a great job. Sounds like a good saw. I would never pay that much for a chain though. i would like to see how it performs though with salt treated wood and everything.

 

[Joseph]

...snip..." I would never pay that much for a chain"...snip...

Cost for the chain was $170.00, if it last 10 to 15 times longer {that is what I have been told] if it does I think the cost worth it. I will report how it works out.

Consider this, professional carpenters who purchase a Table Saw at time purchase Very Expensive blades costing several hundreds of dollars.

Why is it any different, a good saw with a good blade for the correct application.

I have read that aluminum billet and coal are cut with a chainsaw, Yes with expensive carbide blades.

If You think a carbide blade is expensive try a diamond chainsaw blade, blades cost more than the saw.

The saw You sent to Walker's was it New, broken-in or ???

Regards

Joseph

 

[kf_tree]

so dan do you know what walkers did to your 066? do you know how it compares to a stock 066?

it's no secret what they do and it's not much for what they charge. most builders will give you alot more bang for the same buck.

 

[DanManofStihl]

I have beating stock 066 pretty well with my saw. I know they ported and polished it adjusted, the carb and then modded the muffler. The saw was broken in when I sent it to them. It also seems to run cooler it uses more fuel then it did stock but the extra fuel is worth it.