Husqvarna 460 Model Differences

[Vortec-Z71]

I'm interested in purchasing a new chainsaw. I am very interested in the 460 Rancher and have been shopping around for the best price. Lowes has 2 different models listed and I'm trying to figure out the differences between them besides the price. Does anybody know what it might be? Thanks for any help, Chris

Shop Husqvarna 60.3cc 2-Cycle 24-in Gas Chain Saw at Lowes.com

Shop Husqvarna 60.3cc 2-Cycle 24-in Gas Chain Saw at Lowes.com

(the second saw was just added to the website within the past few days)

 

[Whitespider]

The second saw ($499.oo) has an adjustable oil pump, a 90 day warranty for commercial users, and the specs show different part numbers for replacement chains.

 

[Vortec-Z71]

The second saw ($499.oo) has an adjustable oil pump, a 90 day warranty for commercial users, and the specs show different part numbers for replacement chains.

The second (more expensive) saw has the automatic oil pump under "specs" but adjustable under "description" so I don't know which is correct. Is an automatic or adjustable oil pump better?

 

[Whitespider]

I'm pretty sure that "adjustable" oil pump is also an "automatic" oil pump... except with an adjustment for rate of flow.
A "manual" oil pump usually means that the operator is required to manipulate some sort of lever/plunger in order to run the pump... an "automatic" pump uses some form of engine power/vacuum/impulse/whatever to run the pump.
There really wouldn't be any need for an "adjustable" "manual" pump because the "adjustment" is made simply by how often you "pump" it.
"Adjustable" automatic pumps can be nice if you're running a longer-than-standard bar, or doing seriously heavy cutting because it gives you the option to "turn-up" the rate of flow.
Is it needed? Well, if you're just cutting to feed your own home wood stove, probably not... unless you get into a lot of really big wood on a regular basis.
It wouldn't be worth the extra $$$'s to me... but that's just me.

 

[Vortec-Z71]

I'm pretty sure that "adjustable" oil pump is also an "automatic" oil pump... except with an adjustment for rate of flow.
A "manual" oil pump usually means that the operator is required to manipulate some sort of lever/plunger in order to run the pump... an "automatic" pump uses some form of engine power/vacuum/impulse/whatever to run the pump.
There really wouldn't be any need for an "adjustable" "manual" pump because the "adjustment" is made simply by how often you "pump" it.
"Adjustable" automatic pumps can be nice if you're running a longer-than-standard bar, or doing seriously heavy cutting because it gives you the option to "turn-up" the rate of flow.
Is it needed? Well, if you're just cutting to feed your own home wood stove, probably not... unless you get into a lot of really big wood on a regular basis.
It wouldn't be worth the extra $$$'s to me... but that's just me.

I looked on Husqvarna's website and could only find one model 460 so I'm wondering why Lowes has two different ones.. I'm going to contact Lowes and see what they say about the saws.

 

[Whitespider]

Yeah, I just looked on the web site also...
They say all (current) 460's have an adjustable oil pump, and there's only one 24-inch bar and chain option (3/8 pitch - 50 gauge).
Looks to me like the only thing extra you're paying for is the 90 warranty for commercial users... unless one of those (likely the cheaper one) is a leftover "last year" model that may have different specs than current models.

 

[Vortec-Z71]

Yeah, I just looked on the web site also...
They say all (current) 460's have an adjustable oil pump, and there's only one 24-inch bar and chain option (3/8 pitch - 50 gauge).
Looks to me like the only thing extra you're paying for is the 90 warranty for commercial users... unless one of those (likely the cheaper one) is a leftover "last year" model that may have different specs than current models.

I'm guessing it is a new model then and the cheaper one will be phased out.

 

[cal_jrp]

what its worth

the 460r was my first good saw and i am pleased with it.

 

[blacklocst]

If I where I you I would support your local Husquvarna dealer. The money you'll save in the long run will out weigh any that you saved from buying from the big box stores. If you have one locally tell him that you would rather give him the money then Lowes.

 

[Vortec-Z71]

I have a pretty good relationship with my local dealer especially in the service department. I've bought a lot of stuff from them in the past. However, they were just bought by another company and now their prices on new saws are just way too high. I'm also confident I can repair the saw myself if anything goes wrong. I've rebuilt a 55 Rancher before which is a very similar model.

 

[cnice_37]

I have a pretty good relationship with my local dealer especially in the service department. I've bought a lot of stuff from them in the past. However, they were just bought by another company and now their prices on new saws are just way too high. I'm also confident I can repair the saw myself if anything goes wrong. I've rebuilt a 55 Rancher before which is a very similar model.

Before you buy a B-Lowes' saw, check here in the classifieds. I bought a nice brandy new 346xp for less than the asking price of that 460 from a member here. After you've run a pro series saw, you'll wonder what you were thinking with the consumer grade stuff.

A used MS460 on Ebay is around $450 and you get a better saw with more cc's.

There's actually a guy in Freetown always posting rebuilt saws, I'm guessing he's a member here. He posts on Southcoast CL often. It's not me, but if you track him down I'd like to know who it is.

If you can rebuild a saw, or are willing to learn, then no reason to buy a new lesser model, IMHO.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

 

[zogger]

Man, there's a ton of good deals right now on the classifieds here. Example for huskies, a nice fresh rebuilt 365 for considerably less than a new 460 at lowes or any dealer. Save hundreds, use that for chains, mix, bar oil, PPE etc, go cut wood.

 

[Dalmatian90]

The $499 one doesn't actually allow you to add it to a shopping cart...it's not available in stores or for shipping.

 

[John D]

I had a 460 rancher,it was a great saw for me,in fact less problems than with my pro grade saws...it didnt leak bar oil and started first pull in any conditions..I bought a brand new 372xt and a used 372xp,they both leak bar oil and leave a mess wherevery you set them...performance wise a 346xp doesnt stand a chance against a 460 in anything bigger than a 8"..also a 460 can easily run a 3/8" pitch 24" bar, a 346 not so much...peak hp on paper may be the same but thats not worth a darn with no torque.

 

[Sport Faller]

I had a 460 rancher,it was a great saw for me,in fact less problems than with my pro grade saws...it didnt leak bar oil and started first pull in any conditions..I bought a brand new 372xt and a used 372xp,they both leak bar oil and leave a mess wherevery you set them...performance wise a 346xp doesnt stand a chance against a 460 in anything bigger than a 8"..also a 460 can easily run a 3/8" pitch 24" bar, a 346 not so much...peak hp on paper may be the same but thats not worth a darn with no torque.

Uh Oh, you're about to get mobbed by the group of guys on here who have their custom 346 Fleshlight and believe the 346 will outpull any saw ever in any wood :msp_biggrin:

 

[cnice_37]

Uh Oh, you're about to get mobbed by the group of guys on here who have their custom 346 Fleshlight and believe the 346 will outpull any saw ever in any wood :msp_biggrin:

Got my torch and pitchfork, who's coming with me?

 

[avalancher]

24 inch bar on a 60cc saw? Why bother? Step up to a 372 for another 200 clams and be done with it. Sure, it will pull it, but not with a lot of grunt behind it. I wouldnt consider anything more than a 20 inch bar on something that small. I hate running a small saw with a big bar, just seems pointless. Even on my 372 that has been ported and MM I dont stick anything longer than a 28 inch bar.

 

[Vortec-Z71]

What's the difference between consumer and professional saws?

 

[Dalmatian90]

What's the difference between consumer and professional saws?

On my Stihls, what I notice is lighter weight and less bulky for the same power, the oilers put out more when cranked up and are easier to adjust, and the compression release (at least once you get to the 390 v. 360 point; there's no consumer equivalents of the 440 and up series). The oiler is nice...I won't noodle and I don't even go after big logs anymore with my 390 because I know my 360 and 372XP bars stay cooler because they put out more oil.

I'm sure there's other differences that the piston heads here know about

 

[John D]

24 inch bar on a 60cc saw? Why bother? Step up to a 372 for another 200 clams and be done with it. Sure, it will pull it, but not with a lot of grunt behind it. I wouldnt consider anything more than a 20 inch bar on something that small. I hate running a small saw with a big bar, just seems pointless. Even on my 372 that has been ported and MM I dont stick anything longer than a 28 inch bar.

Mine had a 20",but they will pull a 24 just fine for land owner use...After I bought the 460 , I realized i wanted to be able to run a 24 or 28 occasionally,which is why I sold it,along with CAD I aquired here....luckily I only paid 390 out the door for the 460,and It never even made craigslist,my neighbor helped me one day,used it 5 minutes,and fell in love with it,sold it to him for a small loss,and got a 372xp...Im just saying everyone rags on the 455/460 but there easy starting reliable saws. My 460 fired in any temp instantly,and it may have been a little proky for a 3.7hp saw,but it was well balanced and smooth,it didnt feel heavy at all.FWIW timed cuts it outcut Dads old 041 every time,we ran them side by side for hahas.It also easily outcut the old 55 rancher at work,and it only has a 16" bar....