Sold HUZTL/farmertec clone saws.... anybody interested???

[noodlewalker]

I build and sell a ton of these kits to people across the nation. I have built over a hundred of the various kits over about 3 years. Most of the saws I have built are visible on YouTube. When I build them I make a video of it so the owner can see it running before I send it to them. I title the video by whatever saw it is and assign a number to it according to which one it is that I'm building, then tell the owner which video is theirs. For example my latest 660 was titled AM660-40, the one before that was AM660-39... etc. Now I have also built others and used the same theme... AM372-20, AM 380-4, AM361-3....etc, etc. Once you look up one, you can find them all.

That all being said, I have noticed a lot of people are interested in them, mostly for their low price, but many of those people who are interested are hesitant... For many understandable reasons. Some are hesitant, because it's coming from China so it's scary to spend money online across an ocean. Some are hesitant because the product is made in China and carries the stigma of low quality.

I build them for the fun of it, as a hobby mostly. Sure I make a little profit, but I don't over price them with profit as my motivation if that makes sense.... So on to the point of this post....

If there is anyone here who is interested in ordering one, but has some hesitation, I am here and would be happy to order and build it for you. The perk to ordering through me is the fact that I am here and available... Customer service from China sucks, and you won't get a resolution to a problem if one comes up. Customer service from me is simple... If it breaks, I fix it. I have stood behind every saw I have built, and am still in contact with many of my customers... I have only had a handful of minor issues, but have fixed every one of them.
So to anyone interested, contact me either through this post, or pm and we can negotiate a fair price... I have had zero issues with the 372xp kit, very few with the 660 kit, those two are the ones I have built the most of. I would entertain building any of the other kits, but absolutely will not do a 440, or a 070. I have had problems with every 440 kit, and the 070 is just simply too big and I choose to not do any more of them.
Prices can vary for me because the more I order the cheaper they get.. I get discounts on shipping for multiple saws so I can manipulate profit that way and get better deals for you.
This thread is not meant to "push" the clone saws on this site, and is also not intended to start a conversation about what is "better". I am just simply opening a line for people who are already interested, but are hesitant about ordering for whatever reasons. I have dealt with them for almost 3 years and have no hesitation whatsoever about sending them money, they have never let me down.

If you want one, get ahold of me and I will build it for you, tune it up, then send it to you. I will also be there for you should any problem arise...

 

[rushinrio12]

I built a huztl 660 a couple years ago for a friend. It went fairly well. It had a couple issues, but nothing crazy and we certainly didn't regret it. Keep spreading the good word, noodlewalker.

 

[Detroit Dazzler]

Are you Referring to the saws forsale on websites like wish and AliExpress?

 

[billb]

stigma or the property rights theft that is the underlining cause of the trade war ?

 

[2412]

How do you make high idle work on the 660? Do you put in a Stihl decomp valve? Any other Stihl parts?

 

[2412]

stigma or the property rights theft that is the underlining cause of the trade war ?

Someone decided a long time ago that patents and copyrights have an expiration date. Can you be more specific about the theft?

Seems to me that Chinese protectionism is more of an issue, although intellectual property theft is a big one.

 

[noodlewalker]

Someone decided a long time ago that patents and copyrights have an expiration date. Can you be more specific about the theft?

Seems to me that Chinese protectionism is more of an issue, although intellectual property theft is a big one.

Stihl no longer manufactured the saws that are represented in the aftermarket kits.. ie the ms660, they have replaced it with the 661 among others. As far as stealing it...no they didn't. Stihl sold the manufacturing rights to many different plants in order to have aftermarket parts available for the Stihl saws that exist in the public. This Chinese factory is one of them. As far as trademark and intellectual property goes... And I have actually had this conversation with a Stihl rep... Stihl still has the trademark for the likeness of the saws. Meaning it's color and shape. This means that you cannot advertise them as Stihl, or sell them as "new saws" and Stihl certified techs have been instructed by Stihl that they are not supposed to work on them in a commercial setting. It is fully legal for the factory to reproduce the individual parts, they bought the rights to manufacture them. It is fully legal to assemble those parts onto any saw... Including an OEM one. It is just not legal to advertise them as new or as Stihl. You are also not allowed to advertise them with pictures of the finished shape, or with the orange covers in place on a public forum. I hope this clears up the confusion. If there are other questions I can put you in touch with the Stihl rep that told me this information..

 

[cuinrearview]

 

[Justin Taylor]

what’s the lowest price you could sell a 660

 

[noodlewalker]

what’s the lowest price you could sell a 660

Prices are completely negotiable based on several factors, pm me and we can sort it out.

 

[noodlewalker]

I had several private messages come in over night.... I wasn't expecting this kind of a response so quickly.... I have tried to answer all of the PM's but if I missed anyone, it certainly was not on purpose. If I didn't respond to your message, pm me again and I will answer any questions. Thank you all for the positive responses..

 

[noodlewalker]

Are you Referring to the saws forsale on websites like wish and AliExpress?

Yes, I (or you) can order the kits directly from the factory for cheaper and assemble them into complete saws.

 

[noodlewalker]

stigma or the property rights theft that is the underlining cause of the trade war ?

Ummm... There is no theft... I outline this later.

 

[noodlewalker]

How do you make high idle work on the 660? Do you put in a Stihl decomp valve? Any other Stihl parts?

I only replace parts at the customers request and expense. The decomp valves are junk but I install a roll pin through the cap to keep it from Popping off.

 

[svk]

Just a suggestion:

If you had prices posted of what the various saws would cost that would probably reduce the number of PM's you will get and increase the amount of genuinely interested parties.

You mentioned if you buy in bulk the price will be lower. Perhaps mention your base price and make note that if you are able to sell x number of saws the price would be reduced by Y dollars.

 

[noodlewalker]

Just a suggestion:

If you had prices posted of what the various saws would cost that would probably reduce the number of PM's you will get and increase the amount of genuinely interested parties.

You mentioned if you buy in bulk the price will be lower. Perhaps mention your base price and make note that if you are able to sell x number of saws the price would be reduced by Y dollars.

Thank you... I just didn't expect an inundation of people overnight being interested. I completely understand the opinions of many people about the aftermarket saws, so I was apprehensive about posting anything to begin with. The point of the post was to give the guys who are interested in them an avenue to purchase one with the safety of customer service, rather than a nameless faceless factory in China that will take their money and provide a product with zero service, which is what they do and a lot of the reason people "hate" these saws.

 

[svk]

Thank you... I just didn't expect an inundation of people overnight being interested. I completely understand the opinions of many people about the aftermarket saws, so I was apprehensive about posting anything to begin with. The point of the post was to give the guys who are interested in them an avenue to purchase one with the safety of customer service, rather than a nameless faceless factory in China that will take their money and provide a product with zero service, which is what they do and a lot of the reason people "hate" these saws.

A LOT of people watch this site (even if it doesn't show they are logged in) so not surprising that you have significant interest.

My limited knowledge of the clones is that you are getting a decent saw for a low price BUT you need to know a few assembly tricks and expect that you might have missing parts. I personally think if you offer these at a reasonable price to cover your time you should be able to sell as many as you can build

 

[noodlewalker]

A LOT of people watch this site (even if it doesn't show they are logged in) so not surprising that you have significant interest.

My limited knowledge of the clones is that you are getting a decent saw for a low price BUT you need to know a few assembly tricks and expect that you might have missing parts. I personally think if you offer these at a reasonable price to cover your time you should be able to sell as many as you can build

Oh I have built and sold over a hundred of them so I have plenty of experience with the ups and downs of building and selling them. I appreciate the input.... So how about this, and I pose this question to everyone watching this thread... The 660 kit is 260 bucks, anyone can buy it from the factory for that cost. A big bore engine is another 25. Shipping from Iowa to say new york, or to the other extreme, California costs about 35.. ish. So hard cost for a guy to order it and deliver it is roughly 315, give or take.... What, then would be an acceptable price that you would be willing to pay for a 660 with a big bore engine??? Post prices if you see this as an interest. Keep in mind, I also warranty everything no questions asked. I'm curious what that is worth to a consumer, to not have to build it themselves, and have peace of mind by having the seller in America, and willing to warranty the labor, and materials for the life of the saw???

 

[Deleted member 117362]

Life of the saw. That may or may not be long, depending on use. Is that in writing? If plating flakes off of cylinder, is that the end of it's life?

 

[svk]

Your call. You are really going out on a limb to offer a warranty on something knowing you may get a yahoo who doesn’t know saws or worse someone who abuses purposely.