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Thanks for sharing your experiences sir.
A very good one from what I've seen.
Now Grizz, you know I'm a sucker for a good slice of pie.
And miss keeping you honest, would not miss it.
O no you didn't!
Mac&Homelite
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So far I would definitely recommend the 361 kit. I love my saw so far and after the hiccups of getting it to run (which was ultimately my fault) I have not had any problems. I was initially tempted to sell the saw after I built it and get a larger kit saw, but the more I use it, the more I have fallen for it. I know that the crank issues have existed in the past, but has anyone had any failure with the newest kits yet? I haven't heard of anything. I will say that there was a lot of vibration to begin with, but most of it went away after I tuned it and added a bar+chain, and it seems to have gotten better with use.Sorta off topic but I recently built up the 440 kit and really was impressed with the quality, for how much I paid, and was wondering if building up a 361 kit would be good, I know the crank issues exist but from what I have heard they are slightly rumors and how much could a new crank cost from huztl anyways, I think it might be a good kit, it's hard to justify owning a ms441 and a ms440
I have to wonder about the clutch.....one common denominator is those who said the vibrations on the different kits got better did so AFTER B&C and after being under load. Its either crank/flywheel related or Clutch/Clutch drum. And I actually saw something similar with the 660's just didn't make the connection. Need to go back and compare the Oregon vs. As delivered clutch drums as a start, maybe swap out the flywheel with OEM as well....just in the middle of other things now so that has to wait.
Mac&Homelite
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Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that has something to do with the clutch more than it does the crank. The clutch or drum on mine had or still has something funny going on with it. When it was assembled, I could hardly spin the clutch drum at all by hand. I installed a bar and chain and could then pull it around. Nothing seemed out of round and I didn't notice any odd effects when using the saw. I have not had any time to take it apart again and see what's going on, perhaps next weekend I will.
Kit came in a couple hours ago. It was packed good and had no damage. I've only had time to look through the box. I did look at the chain brake spring. It looks like a 660 spring. I'll start on it tonight or tomorrow and get it going. Here's the spring and used oem. You can't tell in the pic but it's larger and bent different.
I've run my "vibrator" with and without the clutch, with the farmertech flywheel and with an oem flywheel, I've replaced the crank with another farmertech and replaced a 50mm top end with an nwp 52mm.... and still have a vibrator.
My current theory surrounds the av mounts which may explain why it diminishes when you mount a b & c. I'll replace the av mounts in one tonight and test that theory.
My current theory surrounds the av mounts which may explain why it diminishes when you mount a b & c. I'll replace the av mounts in one tonight and test that theory.
EB Saw
ArboristSite Operative
Shoot, I will pull the trigger on the 361 kit when I get home, should assemble much easier now that I have done the 440!
The 660 had 3 levels of firmness on the av mounts that you could buy. I searched the IPL and it does not offer the same choice. Maybe someone with a spare 660 rubber piece could compare the sizes. The 440 mounts seemed much softer than the kit 660 mounts.
dswensen
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Yes, exactly. The kit spring (black cover) large anchoring hook on the left end in the picture is not axial with the spring coils like the OEM spring is. It is offset to the plane of the edge of the spring coils. For me, that was fatal for using the kit spring. The larger diameter of the coils is also a problem.
Kit came in a couple hours ago. It was packed good and had no damage. I've only had time to look through the box. I did look at the chain brake spring. It looks like a 660 spring. I'll start on it tonight or tomorrow and get it going. Here's the spring and used oem. You can't tell in the pic but it's larger and bent different.
dswensen
ArboristSite Guru
My kit also came with a plug bolt for the decomp valve port in the cylinder. I used the bolt. When pressed, the kit decomp valve did not let enough compression build to allow the saw to start.
And deco valve has larger hole
The farmertech 440 mounts were softer than oem. I swapped em out and ditched the cheesy handlebar. It now it feels like it should and cuts like a 70cc saw on it's first tank.
Nice work.
Sniff, sniff.
I smell a post hoe!
I smell a post hoe!
