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Jack_Shaft

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I have been following this forum for some time now and I have to say that the advice and recommendations are usually neutral and very informative.

It is for this reason that I am interested in hearing your opinions on my next purchase.

I currently own:

Stihl MS170
Stihl MS260
Stihl 08 (mint!)
Dolmar 111
Makita DCS-6401
Husqvarna Special 50
Jonsered 2154

My father was a logger and I was bred to carry on the tradition (on my own time) thus the big collection.

I have to say that I am very disappointed with a lot of the saws that I have! The MS170 is a great little saw but it does not start very well at all in the cold which makes it semi-useless at my latitude. The MS260 is a decent saw but it just seems to lack the serious cutting power that I need at times. The Dolmar 111 has been pretty good and certainly stronger than the MS260, but it has a tendency to break little things like the chintzy choke lever and old fashioned metal kill switch. That gets very frustrating in the field.

I recently purchased the big Makita 6401 in order to work a little less hard when knocking down some 24-30 white spruce and fir but that hasn't worked out either since it doesn't appear to start worth a crap. Considering that it starts on prime and I changed out the carb with a brand new one a few weeks back, I can only assume that the fuel intake line is clogged. Another job for me to tackle. It was a used Home Depot saw, so I should have figured that it would have some problems.

The Husqvarna Special 50 has been a pretty good saw overall. The starter is finicky in the way that it kicks back sometimes when you try to start it. Man that really hurts when it's -30*C. I put a newer starter on it from a 51 and it seems to be a little better now, but not perfect.

Of all of these saws, the most hated of them all, the Jonsered 2154 has been stone cold reliable. I leave it at my cabin and only touch it when all the others crap out. Wouldn't you know it that I had to use that saw to cut fire wood this past weekend? It worked flawlessly and I have to say that I liked it, but it was really too small for the trees I was working on. Too bad the local dealer is a douchebag.

I have been looking at an MS361 or perhaps even a Husqvarna 357XP or 359 as a good, reliable saw that I could use for many things. If I can score one of these in good condition I will unload some of my other saws and keep a small one for limbing.

Any suggestions?
 
Hi Jack,


My opinion is that you already have a nice collection of saws with some pretty good models in it. My recommendation is to find a good dealer who can tune your saws to make them more dependable, and better starters. If you are good in tinkering yourselve and have some time to read, I recommend you to do a search on Lakeside53 posts, which most are very valuable in diagnosing or repairing your saw, especially the Stihls. Most users on here owe that man a few beers, at least I do.
Personally I would go that road before buying another, but if you have $ to spent, keep your wallet ready for a stihl 441, 361, dolmar 5100, 7900, husky 372, etc, etc..:laugh: :laugh:
 
I have been following this forum for some time now and I have to say that the advice and recommendations are usually neutral and very informative.

It is for this reason that I am interested in hearing your opinions on my next purchase.

I currently own:

Stihl MS170
Stihl MS260
Stihl 08 (mint!)
Dolmar 111
Makita DCS-6401
Husqvarna Special 50
Jonsered 2154

My father was a logger and I was bred to carry on the tradition (on my own time) thus the big collection.

I have to say that I am very disappointed with a lot of the saws that I have! The MS170 is a great little saw but it does not start very well at all in the cold which makes it semi-useless at my latitude. The MS260 is a decent saw but it just seems to lack the serious cutting power that I need at times. The Dolmar 111 has been pretty good and certainly stronger than the MS260, but it has a tendency to break little things like the chintzy choke lever and old fashioned metal kill switch. That gets very frustrating in the field.

I recently purchased the big Makita 6401 in order to work a little less hard when knocking down some 24-30 white spruce and fir but that hasn't worked out either since it doesn't appear to start worth a crap. Considering that it starts on prime and I changed out the carb with a brand new one a few weeks back, I can only assume that the fuel intake line is clogged. Another job for me to tackle. It was a used Home Depot saw, so I should have figured that it would have some problems.

The Husqvarna Special 50 has been a pretty good saw overall. The starter is finicky in the way that it kicks back sometimes when you try to start it. Man that really hurts when it's -30*C. I put a newer starter on it from a 51 and it seems to be a little better now, but not perfect.

Of all of these saws, the most hated of them all, the Jonsered 2154 has been stone cold reliable. I leave it at my cabin and only touch it when all the others crap out. Wouldn't you know it that I had to use that saw to cut fire wood this past weekend? It worked flawlessly and I have to say that I liked it, but it was really too small for the trees I was working on. Too bad the local dealer is a douchebag.

I have been looking at an MS361 or perhaps even a Husqvarna 357XP or 359 as a good, reliable saw that I could use for many things. If I can score one of these in good condition I will unload some of my other saws and keep a small one for limbing.

Any suggestions?
Too bad you don't like your Jred dealer! I have been very happy with my 2159 and want to get the big brother to it a 2171.I cant really comment on the small sthils but a friend of mine has one and to be honest I think it is a piece of junk my poulan will always starts and cuts way faster!Really I know it has more to do with how sharp the chain is! but he never looks after his saw I should report him to the saw police. Now I am looking at a 441 as I have read here it is supposed to be as smooth as a Jred or Husky I think I am turning into a sissy!But love how smooth my 2159 cut's other than the noise you don't even know you cutting.
 
Sounds like you've got a number of good saws that just need a bit of work or a bit of tuning.

An MS170-MS260-6401 combination should cover most bases pretty well. I'd personally be inclined to put the time into getting them running right, rather than buying something else.
 
Just get a 361, and put a 7900 p&c on that 6400....


...but I don't understand why you have so much trouble, are your carbs properly adjusted, how about the air and fuel filters, etc......

If you are further North than me (or even close to as far), make that 361 an Arctic........
 
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Hi Jack,


My opinion is that you already have a nice collection of saws with some pretty good models in it. My recommendation is to find a good dealer who can tune your saws to make them more dependable, and better starters. If you are good in tinkering yourselve and have some time to read, I recommend you to do a search on Lakeside53 posts, which most are very valuable in diagnosing or repairing your saw, especially the Stihls. Most users on here owe that man a few beers, at least I do.
Personally I would go that road before buying another, but if you have $ to spent, keep your wallet ready for a stihl 441, 361, dolmar 5100, 7900, husky 372, etc, etc..:laugh: :laugh:

What belgian said +1 The 660 would be a nice addition to your stable and if you maintain them right they're bullet-proof.
 
Too bad you don't like your Jred dealer! I have been very happy with my 2159 and want to get the big brother to it a 2171.I cant really comment on the small sthils but a friend of mine has one and to be honest I think it is a piece of junk my poulan will always starts and cuts way faster!Really I know it has more to do with how sharp the chain is! but he never looks after his saw I should report him to the saw police. Now I am looking at a 441 as I have read here it is supposed to be as smooth as a Jred or Husky I think I am turning into a sissy!But love how smooth my 2159 cut's other than the noise you don't even know you cutting.

Is it a Poulan? or Pull On...cause they never start until the 25th pull :hmm3grin2orange:
 
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