Big Dutchman
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Yeah, Old Art could shovel a scoop or two himself. I miss him too!
I only want to know "the bar weight"
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Xan...:
I just read through this post again, and your input.
You really need to get one of those old time saws (25-30 lbs, maybe more). X = "my saw is heaver than your's ". You need to get the biggest saw, heaviest chain, and go make saw dust. But do understand that you DO NOT represent the MODERN logger--arobrist--chainsawuser. Just go and make some SAWDUST----let Stihl, Husky, Dolmar, Jons..... worry about making good products, lighter in weight.
bob
I just read through this post again, and your input.
You really need to get one of those old time saws (25-30 lbs, maybe more). X = "my saw is heaver than your's ". You need to get the biggest saw, heaviest chain, and go make saw dust. But do understand that you DO NOT represent the MODERN logger--arobrist--chainsawuser. Just go and make some SAWDUST----let Stihl, Husky, Dolmar, Jons..... worry about making good products, lighter in weight.
bob
xander9727
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Bobcat,
I guess when you're not busy at NASA you post on AS.
The point you're missing is that you need to have the right saw for the job and be ABLE to operate it safely. I have heavy saws, an 088 with a 56" bar is really heavy (about 40lbs). I also have light saws MS200T, 2149 Jonsered, etc.
The infinitesimal differences you seek to discover will not net you a tangible difference. How much weight difference can there be between the gauge and pitch of one chain and another of the same length. Ditto for the bar. Maybe on an 80" bar there would be a noticable difference, maybe.
246 toothpicks, 246 toothpicks.......Whatever genius!
I guess when you're not busy at NASA you post on AS.
The point you're missing is that you need to have the right saw for the job and be ABLE to operate it safely. I have heavy saws, an 088 with a 56" bar is really heavy (about 40lbs). I also have light saws MS200T, 2149 Jonsered, etc.
The infinitesimal differences you seek to discover will not net you a tangible difference. How much weight difference can there be between the gauge and pitch of one chain and another of the same length. Ditto for the bar. Maybe on an 80" bar there would be a noticable difference, maybe.
246 toothpicks, 246 toothpicks.......Whatever genius!
I guess I am in left field here but I thought the point of the post was how poorly Oregon answered the question.
I have sent questions to companies before and gotten responses such as was given that do not even come close to answering the question.
It would be easier if the company actually read the email.
Bill
I have sent questions to companies before and gotten responses such as was given that do not even come close to answering the question.
It would be easier if the company actually read the email.
Bill
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Mike you must be talking about a .325 Bic system vs a 3/8 standard with replaceable sprocket nose. If you are talking same type on both, and you want to put a dollar figure on the one pound difference, I am your man!
a .325, .063 bar is exactly the same as a 3/8, 0.63 except for the tip sprocket. The should weigh close to the same. The weight savings comes from the chain. A .325 chain, weighs much less than a 3/8.
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Bill: you are correct in that we got a little off target here. I think Oregon does has good products and I will chase them a littler harder for specs (weights).
Regarding WEIGHT: every chainsaw & componet (bars, chains, etc) manufacturer spends a lot of R&D dollars to make a better product. Product weight is a major item in their product development. Nothing illustrates this more than the improvement in the weight of todays chainsaw powerhead. Just take a look at some old specs/weights. We get a lot more SAW today in a lighter weight package. This also goes for bars. Today' bar is built of better material, has less weight, and must service the much higher RPM's of our modern chainsaw.
bob
Regarding WEIGHT: every chainsaw & componet (bars, chains, etc) manufacturer spends a lot of R&D dollars to make a better product. Product weight is a major item in their product development. Nothing illustrates this more than the improvement in the weight of todays chainsaw powerhead. Just take a look at some old specs/weights. We get a lot more SAW today in a lighter weight package. This also goes for bars. Today' bar is built of better material, has less weight, and must service the much higher RPM's of our modern chainsaw.
bob
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I made some inquiries to Oregon to the technical department they specified on their web page. Apparently they did not think it technical enough for a reply at all. At least they acknowledge your question even if they gave you a "no answer' answer.
I question what bars or what time period you are referring to when you say todays bars are of better material.
Ben: "A .325 chain, weighs much less than a 3/8" Not anywhere near the 1 pound Mike makes reference to saving.
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Mike what do you mean by .370 ( Lo Pro?) I didnt know it waas made in .063 or do you mean 3/8
"Made the motor mounts bottom out" YEAH SURE!
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Some of the little laminated bars with the small nose ARE much lighter than a regular replaceable nose bar. The whole bar is narrier! Comparing the same type of system though, there is not a big diff between .325 and 3/8.
You wouldn't by any chance be "one handing" your saws would you Mike, that makes you sensitive to those ounces saved waaayyyyy out there? Fess Up!
My 260 motor mounts are doing just fine, I dont use it for a peavy! lol!
You wouldn't by any chance be "one handing" your saws would you Mike, that makes you sensitive to those ounces saved waaayyyyy out there? Fess Up!
My 260 motor mounts are doing just fine, I dont use it for a peavy! lol!
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What makes you say that Glen?
Russ
xander9727
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If you want to save weight use stihl PMN bar and chain. I know it is a lot lighter.
Hi Russ.
This was discussed at "length" a couple of times while you were gone this summer.
Starting <a href="http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?postid=177174&highlight=.370#post177174" target="_blank">here</a> would be good. A couple of my posts later I'd attached <a href="http://www.arboristsite.com/attach/13801.png" target="_blank">this 30KB image</a>. Be sure to read through the rest of that thread; I'm proud of my humor later on.
Glen
This was discussed at "length" a couple of times while you were gone this summer.
Starting <a href="http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?postid=177174&highlight=.370#post177174" target="_blank">here</a> would be good. A couple of my posts later I'd attached <a href="http://www.arboristsite.com/attach/13801.png" target="_blank">this 30KB image</a>. Be sure to read through the rest of that thread; I'm proud of my humor later on.
Glen
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