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The backup is the heart of this website. All those threads, all that info on everything to do with every chainsaw made, gone or severely damaged. And not just the saw threads but all the AS threads.

What happens when you type in any chainsaw model number in google. 9 times out if 10 the first site listed is AS. Is it now? And if it is, does it give you a valid link or take you too a thread that is missing the core components of the thread?

That backup should have been off site and locked up like Fort Knox. That is the worst case situation that should have planned for and avoided.
 
Where the "Teacher" goes the "Class" will follow. Initially I found my builder here, but I have your address, your phone #, and your email address so all is well. I'll see you on the other site.
 
Backups are only as good as the admin responsible for the implementation, not to mention a system restoration if necessary. Same with server security. And there were/are backups.

But I digress...

"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it."

How profound. Welcome to the new generation of AS.

Its opponents of truth didn't die, they just decided to leave because they got tired of being **** on over here.
 
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been over there since the hack, been here before & after too... watched randys questions pretty much unanswered... sh will be better for it and as will carry on... when yer on top, the only way is...
 
And over 7000 views and 200 responses here in just over 12 hours. Says somethin', doesn't it?

Something tells me they're gonna need a lot more bandwidth and bigger server over there real soon.

But for those who may think Randy is airing dirty laundry or trying to be some kind o' martyr in all this, you're wrong. He went the xtra mile supporting the Johnson's when everything hit the fan and everyone got pissed as has been pointed out already. Hell, he even went to bat for Bob (Gologit) in this thread even though some of us would take exception to such warm, fuzzy notions about the man with the big stick who seemed to relentlessly chase quite a few of us around if we even uttered an intelligent thought, let alone posted something humorous -- that he didn't get, of course. (Hi, Bob.)

Not that I have any type of personal knowledge or insight on what makes Randy tick, but I have been in the trenches with him trying to get to the bottom of several technical issues affecting the site and experienced his frustration (and ultimately anger) firsthand due to the complete lack of competence and professional responsiveness, (not to mention the juvenile arrogance) by those who we are supposed to have faith in these days to pull AS back together. It's a joke.

Bottom line, he got pissed and fed up. Has every right to let everyone know about it and how to stay in touch with him. Anyone who thinks that's out of line is seriously out of touch with what's been happening to AS lately.

We should ALL be pissed.

What's unprofessional and completely unacceptable is the new site management situation.

Period.
 
Mastermind and Snelling were the reason I joined this forum. Good friend of mine, Keith Gandy, keep telling me about these guys on AS and how knowlegeable they were. I've only been here about a month and the few times I've sent Randy a PM his response was FAST and ACCURATE! He's influenced the changes to my stock 660 for the better...also Snelling. His dedication and knowledge will be missed.
 
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With the amount of posts Randy made I'm surprised he even had time to port a saw :D

The frustration shown from sponsors during and after this hacking deal was serious and for guys like Randy it definitely affected his business. My chainsaw business is run from home after hours and is more of a hobby. My day job pays well enough to support my chainsaw business and most of my earn involving chainsaws comes from falling contracts, not selling stuff. The response that sponsors received after complaining was simply another monthly invoice. Eventually this got sorted and an email was sent to sponsors saying that their monthly fees would be dropped for a while but to a lot of people the damage was done. Remember that this email from the site owners came a LONG time after the site was down.
Many people (mostly non sponsors) downplayed the damage being done to sponsor's businesses but it was real and measurable.

The fact is that if you pay for a service you are expected to receive that service regardless of whether it is online or not. A number of people forgot this when the site was down and non sponsors couldn't seem to see what all the fuss was about from sponsors such as myself.

My gut feel was that Randy stuck his neck out for AS when everybody else had given up on it then got shafted himself. AS simply does not have the appeal that it did before the hack and I still believe that too many bandaid type solutions were being implemented for too long to try and save a few dollars and hence the site was down for far too long. Running a forum such as Arboristsite is a business and a serious business type solution was needed when it was hacked. To me it looked like the local 14 year old kid was given a Mars Bar and a can of Coke to try and fix the problem...
 
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**** you spacemule


Agreed,

Mule was,,,,,,,,,,,,and is one of the low lifes of the world.


His new GOOD BOY persona is never going to convince me of Nuthin!

He gave me bad rep once, And it was THE only time I reciprocated.

I will not give him a thumbs down, the devil probably likes 'em!
 
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