STIHLTHEDEERE
This is Koty
yeh and your still a loud mouth *********............oh yeh mister know-it-all the rev boost is a no go, and the oil pumps are plastic. anything you want to share with us?????
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Clutch problems that I have seen revolve around people not knowing how to use a chainbrake. I've got an arborist with an Echo with a clutch problem at the moment but I haven't had time to look at the saw. The only 2 saws I've seen in the past couple of years with a clutch problem were a Husqvarna 261 and a Stihl MS440. Both were broken springs. I've got guys that don't know the first thing about maintenance, they simply bring in the saw when it simply won't go any further, and of all the problems they present me with I have yet to see a clutch problem.
Don't lower yourself, you don't look good doing that.
And wait until there is an actual oiler problem before you dis what it is made out of. If the time comes, you can say "I told you so" - but the time hasn't come.
mweba
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Just out of curiosity - has there ever been an oil pump destroyed due to a thrown chain??? How did this even come about?
Yes, have replaced a couple on cheapo saws. Not saying it is cheap just saying it could get hit by a thrown chain which could damage it. I was the source in question but it was just an early observation "thinking out loud".
What were the saw makes and models?
I'm not trying to defend anything in particular, because a broken oiler is certainly a better choice than a broken, useless crankcase (357xp) due to a chain coming off.
STIHLTHEDEERE
This is Koty
it did not say they would be a problem. i just asked if someone who owns one of the new saws could confirm or deney it. and this "flimflam" clown really is a DB, I do not lower myself to anything, unless someone provokes me into doing so.
Even when provoked, you shouldn't.
Anyway, ya it appears to be plastic. But that is neither here nor there until it becomes a problem. I don't like the plastic side covers that Stihl uses, but it's just part of the saw and what they choose to do. Is it a problem? I would say more so than the oil pump, wouldn't you?
STIHLTHEDEERE
This is Koty
guys, i am not looking to start an arguement here. just trying to learn about these new saws, and what makes them tick. i personally have only found plastic pumps on cheaper saws.
I wish I could say that this is in now way, shape, or form a cheap saw, but all I have is a first impression. It appears to have great machining, great fit and finish, and a nice package overall. I will know more this week. Tuesday looks like the day to sink it into the oak that I've previously posted in a thread about my 365 and a 570.
All I can say about the oiler is that Husqvarna's XP saws have a reputation, and in this day and age I don't think they are willing to waste that on a plastic oiler if it didn't work. Time will tell.
STIHLTHEDEERE
This is Koty
are we talking pro saws? i have never seen a pro stihl with a plastic oil pump, or plastic side cover, have you? i have no problem with it, i it works/lasts that is great. i will never put enough time on one to hurt anything.
But you do see plastic handlebars on them! Even homeowner models from other brands have steel handlebars.
MacLaren
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I've never seen a Pro Husqvarna saw without a Mahle cylinder. .......I cant for the life of me understand what the big deal is with the plastic oil pump. TK nailed it IMO, whe he said it is neither here nor there and until it causes a problem.......WE could talk about the Mahle vs. other cylinders. Kinda seems like you wanna knit pick......I hope not as there is no perfect saw I would imagine...
STIHLTHEDEERE
This is Koty
again read my previous post. not nitpicking anything. just trying to find out about this saw.
Again, it doesn't matter what it's made out of until it fails - and at that, for it to be even arguable, the failure has to be due to it being a plastic component. The impact of the oiler due to a chain coming off has got to be extremely rare. The chain coming off the bar has got to be an issue of circumstance. Under proper conditions and operator attention, it shouldn't be a problem. If you're using your chainsaw for a brushcutter, then it's your fault. If your chain is too loose, then it's your fault. It doesn't matter what the pump body is made out of, it matters what, why, and how.
sunfish
Fish Head
Plastic oil pump... Some of the modern composites are stronger then metal.
Oh, and I like the outboard clutch better than inboard. I have em both...
Oh, and I like the outboard clutch better than inboard. I have em both...
indiansprings
Firewood Purveyor
Excellent thread, thank you for the time and effort you put forth for the members. Rep sent. I do like the all orange case much better than that of the 562, the silver will look like chit in two weeks.
I picked up Mitch's 555 this afternoon; light, nimble, smooth, starts easily, controls are logical, overall a very nice package. The 20" bar is a very nice fit with this saw and though I didn't do a lot of cutting it seems to handle the 3/8" chain with no complaints.
Then I pulled out my recently acquired 10-10S Special Edition to cut bark off one of the big cotton wood sticks. Heavy, clumsy, vibrates, requires wisdom and knowldge + technique to start, but I prefer the noise the Mac produces...
Mark
Then I pulled out my recently acquired 10-10S Special Edition to cut bark off one of the big cotton wood sticks. Heavy, clumsy, vibrates, requires wisdom and knowldge + technique to start, but I prefer the noise the Mac produces...
Mark
I don't mind the outboard clutch on my 346 at all and do believe it helps the handling of the saw.
On my 395 with the 42" bar on the other hand... :bang::bang::bang:
fernando62
ArboristSite Lurker
I apologize to all of you if you allow me to introduce myself in this thread
I would like to make some observations, first on a model I found mounted MS441 Gilardoni, MAHLE not only that I think absolutely one of the best rolls in the world. (By the way what happened to kensbi?) second point, like all choices, the internal or external friction has its pros and cons.
the inner one, an easier installation of the bar-chain, oil pump, chain brake and grouped into the crankcase protected bike pro all the heat produced by friction over time is to solidify resin, wood and oil (this is like Huski for stihl)
External: better heat dissipation, a more slim saw body, guard against a coprirochetto more voluminous, more exposed chain brake, and pump (but this can be overcome with a protective sheet) more loss of time in the bar mount chain.
I would like to make some observations, first on a model I found mounted MS441 Gilardoni, MAHLE not only that I think absolutely one of the best rolls in the world. (By the way what happened to kensbi?) second point, like all choices, the internal or external friction has its pros and cons.
the inner one, an easier installation of the bar-chain, oil pump, chain brake and grouped into the crankcase protected bike pro all the heat produced by friction over time is to solidify resin, wood and oil (this is like Huski for stihl)
External: better heat dissipation, a more slim saw body, guard against a coprirochetto more voluminous, more exposed chain brake, and pump (but this can be overcome with a protective sheet) more loss of time in the bar mount chain.
SawTroll
Information Collector
Right - by comparison, the MS362 and 261 are spill over from the first generation of "strato" saws, and was very predictable - they became what many of us "feared" they would be.......
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