It's 2016 to hell with porting...

[wcorey]

Bad news ... Stihl has discontinued the picco 8pin rim ... what is Plitz gonna do now ?

Sell square filed 'special' chains instead...

 

[wcorey]

I'd have to go after him for stealing my intellectual property !!!

What machine are you doing your square grinding on, Silvey?
Simington? Harbor Freight?
Or is that proprietary also?

 

[Ryan'smilling]

Anyone need hybrid ceramic bearings ?

Let me guess, you gotta buy them to find out what they're for.

 

[grack]

Some were not impressed with those bearings I've never used them but if i remember right brad snelling had a thread or discussed them before.

 

[grack]

 

[blsnelling]

You mean this one?

 

[Jon1212]

I'd have to go after him for stealing my intellectual property !!!

I'm sure it would be classified as a Petty Theft.

 

[wcorey]

You're full of questions but no answers....

 

[clemsonfor]

If we all pool our money many $5 a piece someone can buy a kit for their saw to test for us and post vids.

I throw the first 5 in. Who wants to be the money man and collect?

 

[blsnelling]

Is that West Hills build or did u buy the components and do-it-yourself ?

My saw, my build, their piston and bearings. They sent them to me for testing/demo purposes.

 

[CR888]

If we all pool our money many $5 a piece one can buy a kit for their saw to test for us and post vids.

I throw the first 5 in. Who wants to be the money man and collect?

Good idea. But one must be prepared when unleashing the awesomeness of the Fab-razor cutty cutty super chain. The chain gives 40% alone so hold on after the muffler gets stabbed with the scrench.

 

[blsnelling]

What did they soak ya for the bearings and piston if u would be kind enough to reply ?

Free

 

[clemsonfor]

They must have discountined that model ... a 2172 is 799+ tax ... dominant saw bearing are 60 and Wisec piston 110 ... so with tax about $1000 not including labor to split cases install bearings etc ... I assume u "snellerized" it also so let's say ballpark of 1250 into it ... I have a 441cm that's undergoing surgery after I finish up woodys 210 and I will upload to utube before and after on the 210 and 441cm in red oak with kit ...

Are you porting these saws or just doing the muffler mod and razor chain?

 

[mdavlee]

My saw, my build, their piston and bearings. They sent them to me for testing/demo purposes.

I like the pistons. I've got 3

 

[clemsonfor]

That's what I thought but then it kind of sounded like you were porting it???

just using the kit as I have said all along ...

 

[clemsonfor]

I'm am just curious. I don't own one ported saw. I have most of them muffler modified and use a sharp chain but that's it.

 

[wcorey]

balk at a proven kit that can give up to 45% gain

Myself I'm balking at an unproven vapor ware kit.
Whats this proven one of which you speak?

 

[clemsonfor]

Myself I'm balking at an unproven vapor ware kit.
Whats this proven one of which you speak?

Why is this so hard to beleive? I can show you videos on my youtube page...very unscientific with almost 40% increase just from hack job muffler mods. Put a square chain on and your easily over that.

The 1127 stihl series can easily see 30+% from a mild muffler mod. Throw in just off the shelf square file and your at his number.

While I would not buy the kit I see its place if you are scared about putting a screwdriver through your muffler. Ha

Even if when the razor chain dulls you use off the shelf round ground your still faster. Heck I have seen folks charge $40 to 75 just to mod a muffler, for just a tad more your getting a chain.

While I agree it would help his argument t to have before and afters posted I don't see this as a lie.

 

[grack]

My saw, my build, their piston and bearings. They sent them to me for testing/demo purposes.

Was it you that discussed those bearings i can't remember who but one of the builders didn't like them nice saw by the way.

 

[blsnelling]

Was it you that discussed those bearings i can't remember who but one of the builders didn't like them nice saw by the way.

I've used them in several saws over the years. I've had no issue with them. I put them in my 346 quite a number of years ago. That saw is now in commercial service. Are they better? I can't really answer that. I will say that this 2171 ran pretty amazing, even without any porting. In this video it only has the Wiseco piston, with an additional popup turned on it, and the ceramic bearings.