I've developed a bad habit...?

[Night Owle]

I've been working on a lot of take downs recently (mostly red oaks)
I've been spiking up using My Petzl Grillion as a flip line which works
just fine for Me but I don't like the fact that when I come to a branch
that I need climb above Im holding the Tree with one hand and uncliping
with the other (this leaves me Unsecured until I can Reclip) NOT GOOD
I know.....
I was thinking of switching to a Grizzly Spliced 2-in-1 lanyard using a
Klimair 2-way ascender with the 360* swivel as My adjuster...?

Any Thoughts

Thanx In Advance Night Owle....!!

 

[Climbing Cutter]

I use my climbing line and splittail as a second lanyard when passing limbs.

 

[kennertree]

Why not just set a climbing line before getting in the tree?

 

[MuniciPAL]

NERVE RACKING! everyone at my company climbs like that and its very hard to stop them. they say "when i change my style, thats when things happen".
when they finally do get tied in at the top its a great relief for me on the ground. i own a grillion but prefer a 2 in 1 lanyard even though the prussics get gummed up real easy. for the sake of your groundman please stay tied in.

 

[treeseer]

I use my climbing line as a second lanyard when passing limbs.

I thought everyone did this.

kenner, good idea, but sometimes setting the rope up high cannot be done from the ground.

 

[Nailsbeats]

I mostly freeclimb, but when using a lanyard on ascent I usually clip in like you are saying, if it's a nasty situation I use double fliplines or my climbing line and splittail as a lanyard.

 

[oldirty]

I mostly freeclimb, but when using a lanyard on ascent I usually clip in like you are saying, if it's a nasty situation I use double fliplines or my climbing line and splittail as a lanyard.

just set your climbing line the next available crotch if you are worried about making the next move.

or like the man said. bring a second flipline with you.


edit: and by next i mean above your current position. not so rough a tumble if you slip.

 

[ddhlakebound]

Maybe two bad habits?

I've been working on a lot of take downs recently (mostly red oaks)
I've been spiking up using My Petzl Grillion as a flip line which works
just fine for Me but I don't like the fact that when I come to a branch
that I need climb above Im holding the Tree with one hand and uncliping
with the other (this leaves me Unsecured until I can Reclip) NOT GOOD
I know.....
I was thinking of switching to a Grizzly Spliced 2-in-1 lanyard using a
Klimair 2-way ascender with the 360* swivel as My adjuster...?

Any Thoughts

Thanx In Advance Night Owle....!!

What are you using as your secondary tie in when you're cutting?

I too use my climb line/split tail as a secondary lanyard when passing limbs, in combo with a steelcore flipline. When I was learning on the ROW most guys used a three strand prussic adjust lanyard, and a fixed tail climb line, so being unclipped to pass a limb was common practice. I'm glad those days are gone, hard tellin how many times you get to press your luck before it decides to press back....

 

[masiman]

Nothing different from everyone else has said.

I did just get a second flipline for when I know I won't be on my safety. A safety line is the better choice though, gives you a quick way out if needed.

 

[eljefe]

Re: bad habit

Hi, I use two flip lines. It seems faster and easier than to foof around with the end of the climb line. The first one I use, and I don't care for it so much is a steel core and a US standard adjuster. It is not easy to adjust in either direction under tension. The second is a double braid with a hip prusik. Very very nice. I can let it out or pull it tighter easily. I thought about a 2 in 1. Seems like a great idea, but think a bit. Your have a 15 foot 2 in 1 and you are using 5 feet to climb (small tree or a top) and you want to pass a branch. The other side of the 15 foot is 10 feet long and to use it you will have to take up 5 feet of line --you are letting out 5 feet on the first side of it. If you have the 10 foot version then you can only use it in a tree where you need 5 feet or less. I like the idea of a steel core but I like the hip prusik, it works so easily. Even when on a climb line I am always using the flipline to set me in a good position often against the pull of the climb line...climb line pull me up and to the left and I want to go a bit to the right. Set the flipline and I have both hands free to work. Take care. Eljefe

 

[kennertree]

I thought everyone did this.

kenner, good idea, but sometimes setting the rope up high cannot be done from the ground.

I set my line in every tree I climb. I'm gifted with a throw ball and very accurate to 60 ft. Above that I reach for the big shot.

 

[treeseer]

I'm gifted with a throw ball and very accurate to 60 ft.

Many are not, so they skin cats other ways.

 

[Ghillie]

I mostly freeclimb, but when using a lanyard on ascent I usually clip in like you are saying, if it's a nasty situation I use double fliplines or my climbing line and splittail as a lanyard.

What he said...and,

just set your climbing line the next available crotch if you are worried about making the next move.

or like the man said. bring a second flipline with you.

What he said.

Be safe,

Fred

 

[oldirty]

I set my line in every tree I climb. I'm gifted with a throw ball and very accurate to 60 ft. Above that I reach for the big shot.

cmon. every time?

not knockn it mind you but but unless this tree is special in its own way the troline stays in the bag for a takedown. in the same breath though i carry a trobag to get better "in tree" throwing ability.

you dont preset lines in a pine or spruce do you? just curious.

 

[kennertree]

cmon. every time?

not knockn it mind you but but unless this tree is special in its own way the troline stays in the bag for a takedown. in the same breath though i carry a trobag to get better "in tree" throwing ability.

you dont preset lines in a pine or spruce do you? just curious.

Yep, every tree. In pines I use an adjustable false crotch to keep sap off the rope, sometimes I just isolate a good thick limb with coarse bark so the rope won't rub through the bark and get sap all over it. In a large removal I will set a climbing line and a lowering line.

 

[oldirty]

Yep, every tree. In pines I use an adjustable false crotch to keep sap off the rope, sometimes I just isolate a good thick limb with coarse bark so the rope won't rub through the bark and get sap all over it. In a large removal I will set a climbing line and a lowering line.

and then what? you spike up and use your flipline?

 

[clearance]

I've been working on a lot of take downs recently (mostly red oaks)

Why are you leaving branches on the way up if you are taking trees down? WTF? Why not just strip and chunk? Me no understand, and I have cut down thousands of trees with this method.

 

[kennertree]

and then what? you spike up and use your flipline?

I use spikes and flipline if I'm doing a removal, but I'm still tied in on my climbing line and take up the slack as I go. I use a slack tender to make it easier.

 

[clearance]

I use spikes and flipline if I'm doing a removal, but I'm still tied in on my climbing line and take up the slack as I go. I use a slack tender to make it easier.

Why?

 

[kennertree]

Why?

Why not? It's so much easier to move around the canopy with a high TIP. When you have your TIP before you get in the tree you can start from the bottom and get out on limbs over a house. It's the safest way to do things. There are so many advantages to doing it this way.