Jonsered 2153 VS Husqvarna 550XP

[Mastermind]

And your thoughts on this is why I think you are so succesful as a builder!

In the last 10 years, the performance of our saws has been so limited by the restrictions of the EPA, and now that manufacturers have taken such a large leap into the strato-world... the performance of new saws seems more limited by the lack of committment or ability to move forward by some manufacturers. Kudos to Husqvarna (and Stihl), their commitment to this new "green" technology is very evident in the last few years.

I used to be a Stihl guy all the way......I thought Husqvarnas were too low in quality to last. Now don't get me wrong.......Stihl has made some of the best, longest lasting saws ever built.......but in today's market I think Stihl is falling behind. If I understand the concept of the new MS461 they will fall even further behind.

I just can't believe randy doped y'all with that race chain and styrofoam like that, and yall fell for it.

Shhhh......I can't tell you anything without you blabbing. :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[benp]

Well I just ran a tank though the 550xp.....damn that saw goes forever on a tank of fuel.

I had a red oak (22" DBH) and a poplar (24" DBH) down and had blocked them both up down to about 14" or so. I used the 550 to finish them down to 2". It fired on the first pull this morning. Zero issues, it idles perfect, revs lightening fast, pulls the 3/8s 18" LGX like a much larger saw. I'll have to have some help getting a big chunk in the bench but later today after I finish working there will be video. :msp_smile:

I'm keeping this saw guys. It's light enough that me and my weak back can actually use it for more than a few minutes.

Holy Schmolee......That's exactly what I was looking for and going to ask. Awesome:msp_thumbup:

Here's your new promo video Randy...
[video=youtube;pizrPskKwqg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pizrPskKwqg[/video]

Cept you'll need someone in overalls...

Snedding has gone mainstream.....:biggrin:

 

[SawTroll]

I used to be a Stihl guy all the way......I thought Husqvarnas were too low in quality to last. Now don't get me wrong.......Stihl has made some of the best, longest lasting saws ever built.......but in today's market I think Stihl is falling behind. If I understand the concept of the new MS461 they will fall even further behind.



Shhhh......I can't tell you anything without you blabbing. :hmm3grin2orange:

...and then you left out the really sad contraptions, like the MS362 and 261....

 

[parrisw]

I read that you were going to port yours without altering the timing numbers.....I say that the only way to get good gains from this engine is to do it just like the 562s I've built.

I ditch the base gasket and spin a popup to reset squish. Dropping the jug gives you more compression, intake and strato timing......but it maintains the relationship between the intake and strato. I feel that is key to keeping the autotune working as designed.

You can then raise the exhaust and transfers a bit.....

Just how much is a "bit"?

I have 10 saws here to port.......I do one a day on a good day.......I really shouldn't port this 550........right? :msp_sneaky:

1 a day!! take me a week at least!

 

[Mastermind]

...and then you left out the really sad contraptions, like the MS362 and 261....

The MS362 I can't speak to....just haven't seen any around here. I do really like the MS261 though Niko. I wish you were closer my friend....I'd get a strong running one in your hands for a season. With the quad port design and using the strato ports for additional intake they really are stout.

Just how much is a "bit"?




1 a day!! take me a week at least!

I normally put them back to stock numbers or lower.

 

[parrisw]

The MS362 I can't speak to....just haven't seen any around here. I do really like the MS261 though Niko. I wish you were closer my friend....I'd get a strong running one in your hands for a season. With the quad port design and using the strato ports for additional intake they really are stout.



I normally put them back to stock numbers or lower.

:msp_thumbup:

 

[Andyshine77]

Good eye Andrew. I was wondering when someone would notice that. The saw you are referring to is a 362XP that has a 75cc XPW top end. It's totally stock at this point and also has new bearings and seals, new fuel line, impulse line, filter, new carb, intake boot........and yes this 550 is knocking down the same cut times.....with the same bar and chain in the same wood.

Some were saying the 550 couldn't take on a 362, and that particular video was BS. The proof is in the pudding. Yes in bigger wood that may change, but for now.

 

[FATGUY]

Some were saying the 550 couldn't take on a 362, and that particular video was BS. The proof is in the pudding. Yes in bigger wood that may change, but for now.

shut-up Andre, nothing can beat the new Stihl Engineering

 

[blsnelling]

shut-up Andre, nothing can beat the new Stihl Engineering

You must know something the rest of the world doesn't:msp_biggrin:

 

[blsnelling]

Actually, I didn't think Stihl had engineers. I thought they just copied the other leading manufactures and brought it to market a couple years after everyone else!:msp_scared::taped:

 

[Rudolf73]

Actually, I didn't think Stihl had engineers. I thought they just copied the other leading manufactures and brought it to market a couple years after everyone else!:msp_scared::taped:

Oh my Brad, now you have gone and done it... :rolleyes2:

 

[FATGUY]

Hans Peter was very upset with that last comment.

 

[blsnelling]

Not my fault Stihl's lagging behind

 

[Andyshine77]

shut-up Andre, nothing can beat the new Stihl Engineering

BS!! I think this new model can!!!

 

[Andyshine77]

Hans Peter was very upset with that last comment.

Maybe because his Hans are always on his Peter...

 

[blsnelling]

Hans Peter was very upset with that last comment.

Where does that leave his followers and collectors of his product?:confused2:

 

[FATGUY]

Where does that leave his followers and collectors of his product?:confused2:

in the lurch, really. Lets just hope they've got something BIG up their sleeves. I'd love nothing more than to eat crow on this, but the current line (minus the 441cm) is just getting slapped around right now.

 

[blsnelling]

in the lurch, really. Lets just hope they've got something BIG up their sleeves. I'd love nothing more than to eat crow on this, but the current line (minus the 441cm) is just getting slapped around right now.

IMHO, the most promising saw they've put out recently is the MS241 and they don't even offer it here. I can't see that being an EPA thing either. They currently have nothing to compete with the 550 and 562 class saws either.

 

[FATGUY]

IMHO, the most promising saw they've put out recently is the MS241 and they don't even offer it here. I can't see that being an EPA thing either. They currently have nothing to compete with the 550 and 562 class saws either.

+1 Andre and I discussed this ad nauseum

 

[Andyshine77]

in the lurch, really. Lets just hope they've got something BIG up their sleeves. I'd love nothing more than to eat crow on this, but the current line (minus the 441cm) is just getting slapped around right now.

I hope they do!! One can't help but think how much does Stihl really care about certain pro equipment, when they sell who know how many 211's, 290's for every one 460. Stihl will fallow the cash, like many others have before them.