I agree. I was born in 1978 when the real Jonsereds was winding down, so I have no first hand knowledge. I have always had an interest in anything older. Tractors, pickups, cars, saws, hand tools, snowmobiles and many other things. I have always liked to research and look at different models and compare them, see the changes along the way. The first saw I ran was my dad's McCulloch Super 44 when I was 13. The first Jonsered I ever ran was a 670 (I think or maybe 630. My uncle had several of each) when I was about 14 or 15. Compared the the Mac, that saw was amazing and I fell in love with Jred. The first Jonsereds I ran was when I was 15 and working part time for the cemetery commission here in East Corinth. I think it was a 52E but I'm not sure. The Commisioner who bought the saw new and his son who was my age always called it the "51E". All the decals were gone and I never gave it much thought. When I started buying a few saws I wanted a "51E" but they never came up for sale. I got a 52E and a 51. I did a lot of research and even asked the owner if it was a 51E. He said it was and I kept looking. Long story short, not all first hand knowledge is correct. I listen to all information, discard the obviously incorrect and BS, and try to file the new valid info away in my head. I learn new things all the time (like the 49SP fuel line thing the other day). Nobody knows it all, young or old, and it's nice to come in here and have a group of people who realize that. I have received some nasty PM's when I proved some "authorities" wrong on Husqvarna and McCulloch info, so I don't even bother anymore. It is nice to be thought of as young somewhere though. I was talking with my niece the other day and I mentioned Johnny Cash. Her response was, "Who's Johnny Cash?".
Great story! You 'younger' dudes have the energy and passion to trace all this stuff down...plus you listen to the older guys with firsthand experience......which as you say, is not always accurate. I remember what is was like to try and track down all information about something I was really passionate about. Lol...ask millennials who Kevin Costner is.
There's an 'expert' in one of these forums on dating the rise and fall of the Husky 2100/2101. I told him once that the west coast rep for Husky told us back in the day, that the 'XP' designation started as saws with a hotter ignition for PNW conditions, as the saws with XP modules had different part's #'s. This 'expert' spoiling for a fight, told me that chainsaw reps were the biggest liars and most despicable people on earth. What's a comeback for somebody like that who is just certain he knows it all?
Because of the lack of early factory records that didn't seem to survive the Electrolux takeover, there are HUGE gaps of knowledge in what we know for sure about the early Jonsereds. In a way it's kinda of exciting as we put all the puzzle pieces back together and bounce ideas off of each other. Like I said, I haven't been in all the 'brand' threads, but I've not seen another one like this in the forums. Just the right bunch of guys and it clicks.
You gotta cut us old guys some slack though, because we had no Internet back in the day. What we knew was pretty limited geographically and what information was out there came from saw shops and chainsaw mags. I never saw a chainsaw mag....I would have been all over that with subscriptions if I had ever heard about them. If we wanted information above and beyond what was local, we went down to a library and tried to find more. Pretty Neanderthal if you think about it in today's terms. Working around various loggin' shows in OR & WA I learned a lot about the Husky 2100......but it wasn't always accurate as I've come to learn from talking to people all over NA. and even Europe. I know about the saw from a PNW perspective, but they were used everywhere, even in Africa and down-under.
I came into J'reds 'late'...'79 or so...lol. I had no idea about their line or other models other than the 80. And I blame the saw shop for that because if he had told me about the 90, I would have had one then. Although as I stated previously, I was given a 910E to use in the woods instead of my 80. Other than the power to weight ratio, it didn't trump my 80 to the point where I wanted to run down and buy one. Now if the 80 had blown a jug, probably. I
really like now having the ability to play with all these models in the woods and my work. I'm just lacking the time to get them all running at once...lol. Once my grandson gets to the point where he can safely occupy himself, I hope to be back in the fray!
Kevin