Jonsered stories

[Freakingstang]

never bashed the 2186 i love it great to showoff it is a powerhouse. but i only cut on the weekends and for demo and i prefer the smaller saw for weight. also i might just be a puss????

I was't implying, but if you say so, then by all means.....

I am just a weekend cutter now, but I like to play with them quite a bit. After running an 066 most of one weekend, the 2186 was a nice "lighter" saw to run the next. Part of the reason I sold my 066, as I don't really need a saw that big. Granted it doesn't have the same power, but when running with a 24-28" bar, the Jred was lighter, and when dragging it around in the woods all day long, a pound or two makes a big difference.

My main firewood saws for the last 6-7 years was a pair of 365 Husky's, and the 385/2186 isn't that much heavier. Maybe I've just grown used to the weight. Although I'm young and dumb, I like the 2186.

 

[spike60]

ill be Honest i am looking for help in opening up new dealers in my area.
Not who is better or who is best (i have a stihl i used for years in my shed too) Just for owners of Jonsered to tell me why they like Jonsered better.

Well, your not going to open up anybody with this approach. Didn't you get any sales training? Instead of talking about the saws, which are the same, (I sell both Husky and Jonsered), you ought to try talking about the differances in the companies that sell them.

Try pointing out that Tilton is still a family owned company and that every dealer has access to the owners.

Mention that Jonsered won't be ramming tractors and commercial mowers down a dealers throat, while setting up every dealer, box store, catelog house, or on-line seller who can sign an order.

You'll need to focus on these differances if you hope to get anywhere. Ask husky dealers what they do and don't like about doing business with husky. Don't talk about the saws to them. For other dealer candidates, find those who would like husky saws but don't want the rest of the stuff.

Again, the saws even have most of the same part numbers. To walk around saying they are different is silly, and no one will take you seriously.

And lastly, the Cummins IS the better engine!

 

[computeruser]

Well, your not going to open up anybody with this approach. Didn't you get any sales training? Instead of talking about the saws, which are the same, (I sell both Husky and Jonsered), you ought to try talking about the differances in the companies that sell them.

Try pointing out that Tilton is still a family owned company and that every dealer has access to the owners.

Mention that Jonsered won't be ramming tractors and commercial mowers down a dealers throat, while setting up every dealer, box store, catelog house, or on-line seller who can sign an order.

You'll need to focus on these differances if you hope to get anywhere. Ask husky dealers what they do and don't like about doing business with husky. Don't talk about the saws to them. For other dealer candidates, find those who would like husky saws but don't want the rest of the stuff.

Again, the saws even have most of the same part numbers. To walk around saying they are different is silly, and no one will take you seriously.

And lastly, the Cummins IS the better engine!

Good post. Especially regarding the ability of dealers to focus on saws only, without being forced to become a lawn equipment dealer whether they want to or not. I think this can be an important distinction for dealers and customers alike.

 

[woodfarmer]

i have been running jonsered for 15 years, prefer the handling and colour.lighter and faster than the other brands

 

[eyolf]

I got a JOns 70E when my old Homie xl-923 (The cheap one w/points ign, no auto oil pump) was getting on my nerves. 70E was a great saw, and I loved it, but I traded it for a 670 which is also great saw. I still have the 670, and a 621, a 90, as well as a 625, 2149, and a 2141. I had a 2083, until my wife donated it to church fundraiser; I replaced that with a Husky 395, because I could get a marvy price on the husky. I've regretted it ever since. Other huskies I have is are Frankensteins made of junkyard parts (why couldn't she have grabbed one of those?).

The 670 has had a heart transplant (272xp), but to be truthful, the extra 5cc didn't change it all that much. It's my main saw. The 625 came from a farm sale, to use while I was fixing the 670 (scrounging cheap/free parts) The 2149 is the only other Jonsy I've gotten new, but I did buy the 621 from the same dealer that had the 670 and 2149.

I started with Jonsered because a)I liked the styling, b) the Homie dealer was getting bugged about box stores cutting into his no-longer-profitable homeowner trade, and refused to push them. He had Husky and Jonsered too.
In the ensuing years this guy has moved more into husky, as Husky pushed harder and harder to make him carry more lawn goods; with all his $$$ tied up in Husky, it was harder and harder to fill the shelves with red. That made me angry (him too); the last saw I bought from him was the 2149, and I had to beg, as well as pay $60 more for it than the Husky 351 he had on the shelf. But it was worth it...Huskies and Stihls are getting like as$holes...everybody has one (IMO)!

I do like the F. handle better on the Jonsered; it may be only because I broke my left arm and wrist a long time ago, but The arm goes longer before getting tired and aching with a Jonsered over other saws I;ve tried (including the 268/266 Frankenstein).

Someone has mentioned that Husky is sometimes seen in box stores. My dealer related to me that the Husky rep told him several years ago that would never happen, but that Jonsered saws would be...obviously a tale, huh! A former poster on this board who was connected with the industry slipped a tidbit about Tilton having gotten one over on Elux years ago; There weren't many details, but Elux is somehow contractually obligated to supply Tilton with saws, and it was a bitter pill for the Elux board later on. That makes me smile, and I'll continue to buy red saws. My next one will be a 2159.

Oh...Husky 372, one of the all-time best-selling saws is getting hard to find, having been replaced with a series employing some newer technology for lowering emissions. The 365 may dissappear in a year or two. Jonsered still has the 2171 and the 2165, and Tilton may still have the high-revving 2163 too (although I think the 2163 price point is too high). If the 365 dissappears, a Jonsered dealer can bet on selling a ton of the 2171 and 2165 models. at least until Tilton runs out...

 

[SawTroll]

Poulan Pro made in Sweden?

yes its a poulan pro 475, the same saw as a jonsered 2077. i think that there are 3 or 4 of the poulan pro saws made in the husky plant. rick

There is more on this topic in this tread; P7700 tread.
These saws belonged to a Partner designed series/family of saws, that started with the P7700 in about 1984, as far as I know.
It was the saw series that introduced the CCS/"Air Injection"/"Turbo" feature.
I know of the following models:

Partner P7700 (76.5 cc), 710 (70.7 cc) and 660 (65 cc),

Jonsered 2077 (76.5 cc), 2083 (82.4 cc) and 2083 II (76.5 cc !),

Paulan Pro 475 (76.5 cc), 505 (82.4 cc), 415 (65 cc), 425 (reputedly 65 cc (CSCC), but maybe it was 70.7 ????).

Is this the same saw? ...

Yes!

 

[SawTroll]

... They are the same saw in differant colors with a straight handle. ...

That streight across front handlebar is a major flaw in the design, as it tends to put your head into the "kick-back path" too often, with a natural grip on the handle during vertical cutting. :jawdrop:
For felling it is OK, but using the handlebar as a "gunning sight" when felling, is a pretty lame excuse for it imo.:bang:

 

[SmokinDodge]

And lastly, the Cummins IS the better engine!

 

[Justsaws]

Jonsered. I have got a couple 2095's, love them. The dealer is the best around my area for parts, service and price. He has sold them for years and and stands behind his product. I bought mine used and rebuilt them myself but he never gives me any attitude. Always a happy experience. He has never asked me to buy a new one from him. The other brands available to me from dealers do fine but not the same.

I like the way mine feel, run and sound.

I do not like the small re-badged Poulan saw price or the fact that they put their name on the worthless leaf blower that they are trying to sell. They should be ashamed of themselves. I also do not like the fact that they do not have a 90cc + saw anymore but since I did not buy any saws from them new I should not complain.

My story would be great saw, easy to rebuild, excellent to attack nature with. As with most equipment the dealer is very important to customer satisfaction.

The 2095 and 066 Stihl are the best firewood saws I have.

 

[Mr.]

Are you the guy to talk to about a dealership in AR?

Been thinking about starting a shop and the Red saws seem natural.

Cummins. Who else would give you a free truck when you buy an engine.

Fred

 

[Bad E]

When I bought my Husqvarna ..I really wanted the comparable Jonsered, because the Jonsered was asthetically more pleasing. But I would not pay the $150. premium for good looks.:taped:

 

[bama]

But I would not pay the $150. premium for good looks.

My good looks are free!

 

[Jonsered Rep]

Thank you

so far i appreciate all the reasons for jonsered over other saws and some of the other help i have received off of this thread. thank ya'll

 

[Bad E]

My good looks are free!

Happily married and not interested in a Brokeback Mtn. sheepherder relationship.opcorn:

 

[THALL10326]

Well, your not going to open up anybody with this approach. Didn't you get any sales training? Instead of talking about the saws, which are the same, (I sell both Husky and Jonsered), you ought to try talking about the differances in the companies that sell them.

Try pointing out that Tilton is still a family owned company and that every dealer has access to the owners.

Mention that Jonsered won't be ramming tractors and commercial mowers down a dealers throat, while setting up every dealer, box store, catelog house, or on-line seller who can sign an order.

You'll need to focus on these differances if you hope to get anywhere. Ask husky dealers what they do and don't like about doing business with husky. Don't talk about the saws to them. For other dealer candidates, find those who would like husky saws but don't want the rest of the stuff.

Again, the saws even have most of the same part numbers. To walk around saying they are different is silly, and no one will take you seriously.

And lastly, the Cummins IS the better engine!

Interesting point there about the companies ramming other goods down the dealers throat. We had two long time Husky small equipment dealers, the usual saws, blowers, trimmers thing, within a few miles of us that kicked out Husky. The story we got was Husky came to them and demanded they carry their mowers or else. The one dealer sold Kubota mowers and said no way and the other is a bigtime mower repair shop that refuse to carry their mowers as well. Both dealers quit Husky altogether over that and one now carries Stihl and the other one carries Stihl and Shindiawa. I was told by one of my big honcho's that they too had considered Husky but got told mowers must be included in the deal and that was it for us. Anyone know why Husky is doing the mower thing? Seems to me they would be happy with dealers carrying their small equipment line of saws, blowers, trimmers and accessories without forcing the mower issue. Any idea's???

 

[bama]

Happily married and not interested in a Brokeback Mtn. sheepherder relationship.opcorn:

:jawdrop: Me either! Haven't seen the movie and now I don't think I want to.

 

[Sethro]

Welcome Jonsered Rep!
Jonsered is top dog around here!There is plenty of dealers(servicing) in Wisconsin and parts are never an issue.Most are just saw shops that cater to the loggers and help out warriors.Most sell over 75+ 2171's and 2186's a year.And the "bag it or drag it" deal that Jonsered puts on is great also!

 

[Freakingstang]

And the "bag it or drag it" deal that Jonsered puts on is great also!

What is the bag and drag?

 

[Jonsered Rep]

bag it or drag it is a promotion that gives dealers a credit for trading in old saws for used ones. they do not need to run but the savings are passed onto the customer. look for it somtime between june and august

 

[Freakingstang]

bag it or drag it is a promotion that gives dealers a credit for trading in old saws for used ones. they do not need to run but the savings are passed onto the customer. look for it somtime between june and august

Would that be July? lol. Do they have to be Jonnie reds or can they be any brands? What kind of trade in credit do they normally give?


-Steve