Just some pics

[Nailsbeats]

Nice pics.

I agree with oldirty regarding not letting the tail of your flip hang like that. It can get tangled, plus its banging into your saw and chain. For that reason I put my tail on my left hip. I figure my right is getting enough workout with the chain and pruning saw that my left can handle adjusting the flipline.

To adjust my gibbs, I lean in a bit to ease the strain and pull or pay out the flipline as needed. I think the hardest part of flipline adjustment for me was training myself to let go of the gibbs if I was paying out too much (getting over the instinct to grab).

What saddle did you end up with? I think that is a Yale flipline? I was thinking of retiring my first one and getting a new one. Did you get an 8' or 10'? If I get another I will get at least 10' maybe 12'. The 8' works the majority of what I do, but I have been at the max on some of the larger red oaks.

I have the Komet Butterfly saddle. No regrets.

The flipline is a Yale Maxi-flip in 10'x5/8". Looping it back to my saddle keeps it quite manageable even in smaller stuff. I keep a prussic adjustable buckstrap that is shorter on my left side for most small stuff and positioning once I am tied into the top with my climbing line.

 

[Nailsbeats]

if its what i think it is nails just grab the flipline behind the hardware and pull away from your hip at an angle so you can pull it through the "grab" of the ascender.


was it put together on order or did you have to put it together onto the flipline?
if you had to wrench it did you tighten it too much so that its squeezed and cant release? i mean you dont want any play in there but also not torqued down.

is this ascender anything like my gibbs ascender? i only have experience on that and a prussic for the flip lines.


and about your boy nitro and him being a buzzard.....it takes one to know one. lol



oh, and dont hold me to the knowledge part of our game bud. i'm just a grunt. no degree's or certs like alot of these other guys. just on the job smarts. lol

CA is my on my radar though. just the next logical step for me in this game we play.

stay safe

The flipline was preassembled. I will give your technique a try. Thanks.
I believe it to be the same as a Gibbs, but don't know for sure.

I only ask you because I don't have to have my hip waders on to get through all the bullsh1t, and get a straight answer. If you know you tell me and if you don't, you don't claim to know.

I am going to check out the CA thing myself when the time comes. Out.

 

[oldirty]

Oh yeah John, you know thats the only way I roll. It's really the tree's fault though, if them red oaks weren't so tough I wouldn't have to spike them so hard. lol

how about this red oak nails? you like the firewood from this one?

 

[oldirty]

and of course the obligatory shot.

 

[ckliff]

Spikes???

Was that a removal? JPS tried in a lighthearted way to point it out, but while you are learning new things on this site, please be aware spiking trims ordinarily is not good practice.

 

[Nailsbeats]

how about this red oak nails? you like the firewood from this one?

I love it. Nice, very nice. I like the pic with the new 660 beached up in the log. I've found some stuff in trees in my day, but a new chainsaw, now that's a find.:greenchainsaw:

 

[Nailsbeats]

Was that a removal? JPS tried in a lighthearted way to point it out, but while you are learning new things on this site, please be aware spiking trims ordinarily is not good practice.

I am aware, just making do with what I have for now. Not a removal, we just deadwooded that one.

 

[ckliff]

I am aware, just making do with what I have for now. Not a removal, we just deadwooded that one.

Look, you are talking about doing split tails in another thread & still spiking trims? :crazy1: TRY THIS! - Set a line high, throw lanyard around trunk, lean back & walk up. Advance lanyard & repeat. Somebody posted a vid once doing this. Its easy & saves the tree from spike holes.

 

[ckliff]

http://arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=33449

trunk walking fyi

 

[Nailsbeats]

Look, you are talking about doing split tails in another thread & still spiking trims? :crazy1: TRY THIS! - Set a line high, throw lanyard around trunk, lean back & walk up. Advance lanyard & repeat. Somebody posted a vid once doing this. Its easy & saves the tree from spike holes.

Yeah, I am talking about split tail climbing, not rope climbing. I don't rope climb at the moment and have never set a line without climbing up and setting it.

I will be ordering a bigshot, throw bags, line, friction saver, ascenders, all the shizzle needed to climb rope probably this week. Have to figure out my list yet. After that I will set a line from the ground and climb the rope up.

I have seen the technique you are talking about in another thread.

I don't think that climbing on spikes only, removal or not, is all that rare. I am sure there are many in line clearance and such that do it and trim their neighbors trees.

 

[GlennG]

I took Nitro, a good friend of mine, to a tree job today. He took a few pics of me in a red oak so I thought I would throw them up. The job consisted of deadwooding, removals and trims. It was a classic "go through every tree on the property" kind of deal. The job was for a professional photographer who was snapping shots left and right, seriously outgunning Nitro. Nitro did make a good skidder though.

We knocked out 6 1/2 face cord of firewood before the job, so it was a great day. Here are a couple pics of me and Nitro that my wife took when we got back to my place. That's his Chevy maxed out with green hardwood. Notice that Nitro is a textbook Wisconsin redneck and proud of it. Soon after this we grabbed a couple silo's of beer and walked my woods looking for our next firewood prospects. Springs a commin! Cheers.

Here we are on top of my "have yet to split" pile. Sold out of firewood right away this fall and have amassed about 70 face cord so far this winter. Cutting again tommorow.

Nice Pics and thanks for posting.....but.....It looks like all shiny new equipment on the maiden voyage up a tree LOL. Your equipment looks so good it must be a catologue shoot. Just messin with you, very nice, keep posting pics

 

[tree MDS]

Yeah, I am talking about split tail climbing, not rope climbing. I don't rope climb at the moment and have never set a line without climbing up and setting it.

I will be ordering a bigshot, throw bags, line, friction saver, ascenders, all the shizzle needed to climb rope probably this week. Have to figure out my list yet. After that I will set a line from the ground and climb the rope up.

I have seen the technique you are talking about in another thread.

I don't think that climbing on spikes only, removal or not, is all that rare. I am sure there are many in line clearance and such that do it and trim their neighbors trees.

I thing that big shot thing is a waste of money there Nails, just not nessisary/just another way for them to bilk us out of would be profits. All I've ever done for trims was rope climb and we allways just tied a slip knot in the throw line at desired legnth and toss away, its not like we got redwoods or anything. JMHO. Have you tried footlocking yet? Its a PITA at first but an invaluable skill for big prunes on a production orientated crew, and all you need is a prussik cord and a carabiner.

 

[lumberjack333]

Nice pics Nails But your still missing the keg stand shot

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

I thing that big shot thing is a waste of money there Nails, just not nessisary/just another way for them to bilk us out of would be profits.

You must not have given it a chance. I use bigshot, or just a throwbag on a daily basis. Being able to get up 50-75 ft on a consistent basis makes it worth the price. Then I use my MarBars to footlock up, working my way through if possible.

 

[tree MDS]

You must not have given it a chance. I use bigshot, or just a throwbag on a daily basis. Being able to get up 50-75 ft on a consistent basis makes it worth the price. Then I use my MarBars to footlock up, working my way through if possible.

Interesting, I have to be honest, I never tried one-got a friend with one but I never saw the necessity sinse I'm pretty good with just the bag, to at least 60'. What I really meant is that to get started climbing without spikes you don't need a bigshot, thats all.

 

[masiman]

Interesting, I have to be honest, I never tried one-got a friend with one but I never saw the necessity sinse I'm pretty good with just the bag, to at least 60'. What I really meant is that to get started climbing without spikes you don't need a bigshot, thats all.

I am no where near the experience of you or JPS but I fall on the side of the big-shot. I can get a throw line where I need it far more consistently than I can by throwing. I figure I am ok at about 40'-50' throwing. After that, it had better be a pretty unobstructed shot. It can be annoying carrying BS along with everything else but it does save me a ton of time getting that TIP in.

Alot of times I could just flipline up and then set the TIP by hand but I really like that secure feeling of flipping up with a TIP in case I get into trouble. Even if I have to take extra time to take up the TIP slack.

The customers like seeing it and think what a cool gadget. And then you hike up their tree and make them nervous about how high you've climbed . But if you don't need it, yeah, save yourself $120 plus maintenance costs (I have not needed new bands or a head yet).

 

[Nailsbeats]

Glenn almost everything I have on in that picture is brand new. The only things not new are the spikes(new straps though!) and the buckstrap on my left side. Even that isn't that old. The old gear is hanging in the shed waiting for my kids to get old enough to use it.

Tree MDS, I was going to just buy the sling for 25 odd dollars and build the rest out of aluminum at my shop. Costs will be low enough to make it a no brainer.

Lumberjack, I know I can never compete with your avatar, so I will stick to the pretty boy pics. lol

 

[reachtreeservi]

Hey Nails, I'd just buy the bigshot for 120. Consider the time and trouble it'll take to fabricate it and the fact it'll pay for it's self the 1st job you set a line 70 feet from the ground and pull the tree over without climbing it.

You can make shots thru cover that you would never be able to hand throw.
Best money you'll ever spend and you write it off on your taxes.

Originally Posted by tree MDS
"I thing that big shot thing is a waste of money there Nails, just not nessisary/just another way for them to bilk us out of would be profits."

MDS doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

[Nailsbeats]

reach, I run a fab shop, it'll be no trouble at all. Yeah, I am looking forward to firing that bag up in some trees and pulling them over, should be slick.

 

[hornett224]

i use the big shot and i wouldn't go without it.

not to mention the joy i get from nailing the condos next door with black walnuts when they piss me off.