Kernmantle rope

[bootboy]

Does anyone here climb on kernmantle rope? Either static or semi static? I come from a strong climbing and search&rescue background and when I srt I use 11mm HTP. Drt I use safety pro or PMI easy bend. This type of rope is just what I'm used to. What are some of the pros and cons of kernmantle rope for tree work?

Your thoughts?

 

[tree md]

This is what I have been climbing on for the past 5 years and it is kernmantle line:

Yale Cordage Poison Ivy Competition Level Kernmantle Rope :: SherrillTree - the Leader in Tree Climbing Supplies

Pros:
Dynamic line with just enough stiffness to work well with ascenders.

Knots well.

Cons:

It can milk when used with friction savers.

Some people don't like the fact that it fuzzes up after some use but it doesn't bother me a bit. To me, it is just getting good and broken in when it starts to get fuzzy.

 

[bootboy]

Interesting. Any experience with new England's fly-line? It's very attractive, especially for the price. I'm not super stoked on 13mm line. I'm a lightweight at only 150 and I don't have gigantic hands, so 13mm just feels too fat.

 

[tree md]

Nope, no experience with that line. However, PI is only 11.7 MM and works just fine in my ascenders.

 

[deevo]

Interesting. Any experience with new England's fly-line? It's very attractive, especially for the price. I'm not super stoked on 13mm line. I'm a lightweight at only 150 and I don't have gigantic hands, so 13mm just feels too fat.

I have a length of that ( 125') for shorter climbs, I like it, knots well, feels light. No complaints from me.

 

[bonner1040]

I love my Fly!It has a great feel that reminds me of the static/dynamic mountaineering ropes started climbing with.

 

[bootboy]

I think it's my next rope.

 

[VA-Sawyer]

This is what I have been climbing on for the past 5 years and it is kernmantle line:

Yale Cordage Poison Ivy Competition Level Kernmantle Rope :: SherrillTree - the Leader in Tree Climbing Supplies

tree md,

I know what it says in the link you posted, but I don't think PI is a Kernmantle rope. It really looks like a doublebraid to me. In the latest issue of the Sherrill catalog on page 4 they describe both doublebraid and kernmantle constructions and include drawings. On page 7, in the Climbing Rope Chart, they list PI as a doublebraid, and lower down they list Snakebite as a kernmantle. When I do splices in my PI the core is braided.
What do you think ?
Rick

 

[tree md]

tree md,

I know what it says in the link you posted, but I don't think PI is a Kernmantle rope. It really looks like a doublebraid to me. In the latest issue of the Sherrill catalog on page 4 they describe both doublebraid and kernmantle constructions and include drawings. On page 7, in the Climbing Rope Chart, they list PI as a doublebraid, and lower down they list Snakebite as a kernmantle. When I do splices in my PI the core is braided.
What do you think ?
Rick

To my knowledge, "kernmantle" just refers to any rope with the core or "kern" (German I believe) protectected by a sheath or mantle. Double braid would fall into this category. That is how it was explained to me anyway.

 

[VA-Sawyer]

Where as, I was taught that a Kernmantle rope had basically straight fibers in the core that carried most or sometimes all of the load, and the cover was there mostly to protect the core.

Did you look at the descriptions on page 4 that I mentioned in my last post?

Rick

 

[tree md]

No I didn't I'm watch the NCAA championship game right now but I have heard PI referred to as double braid before as well. I'll look it up later. Like I said, kernmantle was explained to me as being any core protected line. When PI first came out it was heavily touted as "kernmamtle" line.