laynard setup

[mdtreeman]

I currently use the 2 in 1 lanyard setup. Basically it consists of an old piece of climbing rope 8 feet long with snaps on each end with a hip prusik in between to adjust the length. I'm thinking of switching to a lanyard with a mechanical adjuster. I was looking at the Rockgrab Lanyard adjuster, Gibbs #3 Ascender, and the Petzl Microender. I like the idea of the quick release models since they can be transferred from my lanyard to a longer rope easlily when cutting larger stubs. Are these safe or is better to use the models with the more permanent setup with a bolt and nut which would eliminate switching it from one line to the other without breaking out the toolbox. Just wanted to know what you guys use.

 

[Nailsbeats]

I have Gibb's and Petzl and they are both good, just a matter of steel vs. aluminum. I would recommend sticking to the bolt on ones, the quick tach model would make me nervous on a flipline setup, though I do use them to backup ascenders on SRT and Ddrt setups.

The Gibb's can't be beat for rock solid dependability due to the stainless steel.

 

[RacerX]

I prefer the A.R.T Positioner over all other setups. I've used a knot, and mechanical adjuster and the ART and IMO there is no comparison. Here's an old thread with plenty of other opinions.

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=122465

 

[mattfr12]

I prefer the A.R.T Positioner over all other setups. I've used a knot, and mechanical adjuster and the ART and IMO there is no comparison. Here's an old thread with plenty of other opinions.

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=122465

big money tho you can build a laynard for 40$ get a piece of tenex a micro pulley and 2 carabiners. thats all i use alot of times. still got the one handed adjustment with the micro pulley.

 

[tree md]

I just use the generic rope grab that Wesspur sells on my flipline. It has worked fine for me for about 4 or 5 years now. I also used it on a homemade rope lanyard and it worked great as well. If I need more length or have another reason for use of another lanyard I just use my climbing line as a lanyard with a VT and a small boat snap to advance the hitch. Works like a charm.

 

[tree md]

Here's the thing about the rope grabs and mechanical adjusters: they cannot be lengthened under tension. The ART Positioner is an exception but it is pricey. The most common scenarios where I need to lengthen my lanyard while under tension is when I am working a large spar and when I might have it in a secondary limb or tie in point where I am trying to position for a cut. It has really never been a problem for me to relieve my weight and lengthen the lanyard with the rope grab when I have needed to. Most of the time now I am using my climb line on a large spar and the VT and boat snap (used just like a micro pulley to tend slack) allow you pull as much slack or tend as much as you need while under tension.

Before I bought an ART Positioner I would just make a lanyard out of an eye to eye, micro pulley/boat snap and a couple of biners, just as Matt has mentioned. It does the same exact thing at a much better price.

 

[Ghillie]

Icetail, 16 strand and captive eye swivel biner. Black cord is for keeping it up out of the way when climbing, no life safety purposes.

 

[Job Corps Tree]

Lanyard set up

I still use Distel on 8 feet of rope with two eyes one on each end with a Micro pulley, one handed ajustments, retie for a two to one lanyard. Distel or VT is just as smooth as most rope grabs + you can choose whitch one to use for what ever job.

 

[Ghillie]

I still use Distel on 8 feet of rope with two eyes one on each end with a Micro pulley, one handed ajustments, retie for a two to one lanyard. Distel or VT is just as smooth as most rope grabs + you can choose whitch one to use for what ever job.

Yes, I also have a 20' 16 strand with eyes in both ends that I spliced, it's rigged the same way. I like the distel but haven't tried the VT.

I like having choices and options. And one option that is a high priority is to be able to release under pressure.

I'm not trying to take credit, I think Tom came up with the idea and OD is the one that pointed it out to me. I will be glad to try to answer any questions that I can though.

 

[Job Corps Tree]

Lanyard set up

Tom D may have all I meant was this is a great setup. I may some time back in the 90s say it or came up with it,or could have seen it from Arbormaster. Still like it good to have a to change it around. I have tried a lot of different Fliplines and always come to what I like for me, + I am cheap don't want to spend any more that I have to, cuts into my Beer fund

 

[canopyboy]

Haven't tried the ART yet, too much money right now for a lanyard adjuster. Recently switched away from mechanical adjusters. A hitch (kind of liking the Distel for this) seems to be far superior for my needs due to the ability to release some length under tension when I want. Yes, there are mechanical ones that will do that, but a lot more $$ and I can use hitch cord on any diameter without much problem and make new ones quickly.

 

[Nailsbeats]

I use what big G has pictured up there aside from my wirecore. I have two rope units like this, both running a schwabisch hitch. I like the hitch on a rope lanyard for it's ability to bend around stuff and not stab ya in the cabbage when hanging on your hip. For a wirecore I like the mechanical adjusters cause I mostly use them for sappy pinelike situations.

 

[tree md]

I love my steel core for climbing trees with big spars and trees with Ivy. So much more efficient to flip the steel core up the spar than a flimsy rope lanyard. I usually install a line in most trees with a huge spar, Ivy or other difficult obstacles but I still find it necessary to use my flip line a lot.

Any of you guys ever use a Becket Bend on your rope lanyard? I haven't even seen anyone use this adjuster knot since the early to mid 90's but one of the climbers I worked with and learned from used to use it. He was an old line clearance guy from Louisiana. He started out clearing lines in the swamp and said that most trees he climbed back then he started his climb in the water. Anyway, he is the one who taught me the Becket Bend. I used it for a little while then went to a better method. Just wondering if anyone else ever used one.

 

[Ghillie]

I love my steel core for climbing trees with big spars and trees with Ivy. So much more efficient to flip the steel core up the spar than a flimsy rope lanyard. I usually install a line in most trees with a huge spar, Ivy or other difficult obstacles but I still find it necessary to use my flip line a lot.

Any of you guys ever use a Becket Bend on your rope lanyard? I haven't even seen anyone use this adjuster knot since the early to mid 90's but one of the climbers I worked with and learned from used to use it. He was an old line clearance guy from Louisiana. He started out clearing lines in the swamp and said that most trees he climbed back then he started his climb in the water. Anyway, he is the one who taught me the Becket Bend. I used it for a little while then went to a better method. Just wondering if anyone else ever used one.

Yes I have used it...... once.

 

[vaclimber]

i think so

I love my steel core for climbing trees with big spars and trees with Ivy. So much more efficient to flip the steel core up the spar than a flimsy rope lanyard. I usually install a line in most trees with a huge spar, Ivy or other difficult obstacles but I still find it necessary to use my flip line a lot.

Any of you guys ever use a Becket Bend on your rope lanyard? I haven't even seen anyone use this adjuster knot since the early to mid 90's but one of the climbers I worked with and learned from used to use it. He was an old line clearance guy from Louisiana. He started out clearing lines in the swamp and said that most trees he climbed back then he started his climb in the water. Anyway, he is the one who taught me the Becket Bend. I used it for a little while then went to a better method. Just wondering if anyone else ever used one.

Is that the proper name for when lanyard is tied directly to d-ring and basicly crosses over itself to lock? I was trained with that before getting hip to ascenders(we called it a cats claw). primitive, but nifty

 

[Ghillie]

Is that the proper name for when lanyard is tied directly to d-ring and basicly crosses over itself to lock? I was trained with that before getting hip to ascenders(we called it a cats claw). primitive, but nifty

It is a good thing to know that the same way it is good to know a tautline. If you need it, you REALLY need it.

 

[tr33thri11s]

set up

I use pretty much the same set up as pictured above. The only major difference is I slid a piece of hose cover (type used to protect hoses on machinery) in between the snap/carabiner and hitch. This helps fend off pine pitch and allows for smoother release/lengthing when weight is on the lanyard.

 

[david miller]

Ive been useing the leather friction saver from sherrill the palms down here are rough on landyards plus I figured it might stop a saw nick

 

[tree md]

Is that the proper name for when lanyard is tied directly to d-ring and basicly crosses over itself to lock? I was trained with that before getting hip to ascenders(we called it a cats claw). primitive, but nifty

Yep, same knot.

 

[tramp bushler]

I love my steel core for climbing trees with big spars and trees with Ivy. So much more efficient to flip the steel core up the spar than a flimsy rope lanyard. I usually install a line in most trees with a huge spar, Ivy or other difficult obstacles but I still find it necessary to use my flip line a lot.

Any of you guys ever use a Becket Bend on your rope lanyard? I haven't even seen anyone use this adjuster knot since the early to mid 90's but one of the climbers I worked with and learned from used to use it. He was an old line clearance guy from Louisiana. He started out clearing lines in the swamp and said that most trees he climbed back then he started his climb in the water. Anyway, he is the one who taught me the Becket Bend. I used it for a little while then went to a better method. Just wondering if anyone else ever used one.

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In the timber industry of the west coast , California -Alaska . Both countries . The standard old system was a Wide leather belt with double Dee rings per side . The 4 strand manilla wire rope core climbers rope ie flip line was woven thru the dees and lashed to them and the tool holders in the back ...On one side there was an eye spliced and the other side the rope went around the tree and was tied with a cats paw or sheet bend ... it could be adjusted in or out with out ever having to be undone . also it never got too tight so it could always be tightened up or loosened ... regardless of weather you had spured out while pulling up 150 lbs or block, strap and haywire at once . . This method doesn,t lend itself well to climbing up the tree thru the limbs .