2treeornot2tree
Dont cry, just do it
Where the heck can you get a small osage tree? Everyone that i talk to cant seem to get them to grow from the seeds.
Lean + Target ->...Prune?
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Where the heck can you get a small osage tree? Everyone that i talk to cant seem to get them to grow from the seeds.
They don't come in "tiny". They only come in "larger than a softball".
Your bonsai is going to look pretty silly hanging onto one of those.
treemandan
Tree Freak
The size of the fruit can be impacted with regular crown and root prunings though it is still possible that they would be big. Them pesky trees, never really know what they are gonna do next.
I have seen walnut bonsai with little tiny walnuts. I have some but not ready to produce little walnuts.
treemandan
Tree Freak
you can get pretty much anything online, it comes as root stock. I was thinking I should just find a the closest specimin and air layer. The proceedure could be refered to as " insta-bonsai"
2treeornot2tree
Dont cry, just do it
Not sure what that is. Is that a technical term or a thedan term?
treemandan
Tree Freak
Its easier to look it up online rather me explain. Its a simple proceedure to get the very tips of a woody plant form roots. When a branch from a live tree contacts the ground long enough for roots to form that is called layering.
Ed Roland
Addicted to ArboristSite
Yeah, we get it, Dan.
U can reach into a pig's ass and pull out a ham sandwich. :chatter:
The larger question is why Guy would even engage removalists with a preservation issue. :bang:
:notrolls2:
U can reach into a pig's ass and pull out a ham sandwich. :chatter:
The larger question is why Guy would even engage removalists with a preservation issue. :bang:
:notrolls2:
treemandan
Tree Freak
Yeah, we get it, Dan.
U can reach into a pig's ass and pull out a ham sandwich. :chatter:
The larger question is why Guy would even engage removalists with a preservation issue. :bang:
:notrolls2:
Can you really get a ham sandwich like that? I gotta say that i am skeptical after all I have been told.
Incomplete
ArboristSite Guru
"It might behoth a historian to air layer or otherwise propogate the historic tree. "
O Mr. The, you guessed it. I took cuttings 2 years ago for an arboretum in iowa, but they all molded. :msp_mad: I think they tried again.
behoth? o, behoove, i get it...
Air-layering is commonly done on tropical fruits. Kind of a short season there in N IL. Next time i see adventitious roots in a red maple here in NC I plan to bagnmoss em.
Big Ed, just trying new waters, to test my new shark cage. anyway howlin with coyotes is more fun than singin gwith choirs all the time. O and if we have lunch again i will pack my own, now that I knwo where you get your sanniches from.
I think this tree is a male, so anyone wanting to sell steel umbrellas in that town will be disappointed. :bang:
O Mr. The, you guessed it. I took cuttings 2 years ago for an arboretum in iowa, but they all molded. :msp_mad: I think they tried again.
behoth? o, behoove, i get it...
Air-layering is commonly done on tropical fruits. Kind of a short season there in N IL. Next time i see adventitious roots in a red maple here in NC I plan to bagnmoss em.
Big Ed, just trying new waters, to test my new shark cage. anyway howlin with coyotes is more fun than singin gwith choirs all the time. O and if we have lunch again i will pack my own, now that I knwo where you get your sanniches from.
I think this tree is a male, so anyone wanting to sell steel umbrellas in that town will be disappointed. :bang:
Here we go...establish the objective? pretty much any one meeting with the customer goes over the "objective" you make it sound like its a black ops mission in Iraq. most I know write up a work order & specify exactly what is going to be done & the cost for such, unless you want all quotes to contain sections of the A300 from verbatim? that would be silly unless customer requested such.
As far as the 1/3rd rule..............I still apply it & then there are times apply less, you telling me you make all cuts exactly to 25%?
Ahh lots of cracked branches ya couldnt see from the ground? who`d of ever thought, thats the breaks that non-climbing CA`s & non climbing consulting Arbs get! maybe if you tree risk assessor types (certified even) would climb up & inspect the dam tree, you wouldnt go through the "beyotch fest" that you did? your not happy cause you screwed up & the customer caught it!! next time do it right like ya preach & you wont lose over 2hrs of work! guess the A300, Ansi regs & all that other BMP stuff didnt help ya out at all, wow imagine that?
LXT..........
" pretty much any one meeting with the customer goes over the "objective"
It should; owner's goals are run through arborist knowledge and they agree on a work order, which the arborist specifies in writing. You're right, it can be that simple--head of the class!
" guess the A300, Ansi regs & all that other BMP stuff didnt help ya out at all, wow imagine that?"
Right again; that's 2 for 2! They didn't help because I didn't follow them: 5.1.2 "If a condition is observed beyond the original scope of the work, the condition should be reported to an immediate supervisor, the owner, or the person authorizing the work."
The crack in the image was the kind of thing I should have reported as soon as I saw it when I got up the tree, and renegotiated. As usual, you are right on the money. Thanks for your kind words, cogent reasoning, and selfless support of your fellow arborists. :msp_wub:
It should; owner's goals are run through arborist knowledge and they agree on a work order, which the arborist specifies in writing. You're right, it can be that simple--head of the class!
" guess the A300, Ansi regs & all that other BMP stuff didnt help ya out at all, wow imagine that?"
Right again; that's 2 for 2! They didn't help because I didn't follow them: 5.1.2 "If a condition is observed beyond the original scope of the work, the condition should be reported to an immediate supervisor, the owner, or the person authorizing the work."
The crack in the image was the kind of thing I should have reported as soon as I saw it when I got up the tree, and renegotiated. As usual, you are right on the money. Thanks for your kind words, cogent reasoning, and selfless support of your fellow arborists. :msp_wub:
Absolutely.
You might not, however, care much for the extra seasoning that it always comes with.
Dang, lxt!
That sounds like a lot of bottled up anger. You should relax a bit more, drink something particularly cool 'n refreshing, then settle in for some pleasant conversation with your peers.
This thread is staying pretty friendly; there is no need to get cranky.
That sounds like a lot of bottled up anger. You should relax a bit more, drink something particularly cool 'n refreshing, then settle in for some pleasant conversation with your peers.
This thread is staying pretty friendly; there is no need to get cranky.
Pelorus
Uva uvam vivendo varia fit
Seems like everytime I provide an estimate for deadwooding a tree, the job ends up taking longer than I thought it should. Always seems to be more stuff that needs doing once up in the tree than what can be seen from the ground. Gonna get some decent binoculars one of these days.
arborjockey
ArboristSite Guru
If you climb every tree for inspection before your estimate like lxt you wont run into such unforeseen problems.
but if you do find anything notify the forman, supervisor, owner of business, homeowner, and a consulting arborist for a 2nd opinion. :msp_sneaky: Save the sun scalded, rotten branches so you can send it to the local high school for analysis. 
Pelorus
Uva uvam vivendo varia fit
If you climb every tree for inspection before your estimate like lxt you wont run into such unforeseen problems.
Yeah, but then the "free" estimate turns into a consultation which neither party bargained on. You walk around the tree and notice "X" number of limbs to remove, but once you start working, you gotta remove 12 dead/cracked/decayed ones you somehow missed on the initial estimate, and 15 feet above them is a little damn hanger, and so on and so forth. Not a big deal, just that there seems to always be more thats needs doing once you actually start doing it. Kinda like any home reno project the wife has ever conned me into starting. I think the term is called "creeping scope", where you plan on only fixing A & B, but then realize that C & D got somehow involved, and if C & D get attention, then adding E & F will really make the wife happy.
Nah, no anger here! & honestly Seer surprised me with his reply acknowledging what he did, not meaning to throw a fella Arborist under the bus, just stating what I thought....maybe a lil harshly & for that im sorry!
LXT..............
arborjockey
ArboristSite Guru
:chatter:
Is that what happens ? ....... minus the wife. Yeah I guess the 1st couple of years it does . :deadhorse:
