leaner, what did I do wrong??

[Gologit]

We have no such laws down here. Maybe it is to protect the stupid? Yep, seen the professionals killed also.

You might double check on those laws.

And you've actually seen professionals get killed? You were there?

 

[purplewg]

You might double check on those laws.

And you've actually seen professionals get killed? You were there?

Did check and yes I saw a professional tree climber get killed topping a tree.

 

[Gologit]

Did check and yes I saw a professional tree climber get killed topping a tree.

Looks like you're all set. Go. Cut.

 

[ropensaddle]

Did check and yes I saw a professional tree climber get killed topping a tree.

Your mistaken the laws regarding power are federal and even though Florida is mostly Cuban your still so far part of the USA. Non -qualified deer stand cutters are not permitted to climb, pull vines, or anything short of hanging them selves within ten feet of energized conductors fixture or apparatus. Call osha ask them then call your power company they will take them down for you if you tell them your plans. I have trimmed around live power for over twenty five years been to all sorts of osha meetings and seen all sorts of fried deer stand climbers with chains for buck straps don't make my insurance go up learn this business from pros or stay away from obstacles. Also if your doing tree work for hire get license and insurance because legitimate businesses that do don't enjoy your kind and your difinately breaking law by not being licensed so better check again bub.



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[Gologit]

Hey Rope....

Quit confusing him with logic, common sense, and the reality of the situation. He has his mind made up and it sounds like all the good advice you guys have given him is not only ignored but unwelcome as well.

Me, I'd listen to you about hot lines. But that's just me.

 

[ropensaddle]

Hey Rope....

Quit confusing him with logic, common sense, and the reality of the situation. He has his mind made up and it sounds like all the good advice you guys have given him is not only ignored but unwelcome as well.

Me, I'd listen to you about hot lines. But that's just me.

Lol yeah guess your right I am spoiling all the fun reading ehhhhhh:monkey:

 

[stihl sawing]

I've cut a few leaners but in all seriousnes, If it's close to a power line, Forget it. I ain't touchin it. Like was mentioned many liabilities involved with something like that. If i ever come on one that needs that, i'll be callin rope to take care of it. I have refused a few good oaks that would have made a lot of firewood, They were either right next to a house or a powerline. just ain't worth the risk involved.

 

[purplewg]

Looks like you're all set. Go. Cut.

No problem do it all the time...

 

[purplewg]

Your mistaken the laws regarding power are federal and even though Florida is mostly Cuban your still so far part of the USA. Non -qualified deer stand cutters are not permitted to climb, pull vines, or anything short of hanging them selves within ten feet of energized conductors fixture or apparatus. Call osha ask them then call your power company they will take them down for you if you tell them your plans. I have trimmed around live power for over twenty five years been to all sorts of osha meetings and seen all sorts of fried deer stand climbers with chains for buck straps don't make my insurance go up learn this business from pros or stay away from obstacles. Also if your doing tree work for hire get license and insurance because legitimate businesses that do don't enjoy your kind and your difinately breaking law by not being licensed so better check again bub.

Non -qualified deer stand cutters are permitted to climb, pull vines, or anything short of hanging them selves within ten feet of energized conductors fixture or apparatus as long as they notify the power line owner and/of if the power line carries less than 750 volts

Any residential drop off of a step-down transformer will be below the 750 volt limit.

Therefore I am not breaking any laws, I do not hire out for tree work, I have recommended many times folks go hire a "professional". I am getting too old to play tree monkey anymore.

A man has to know his limitations. The one I dropped was 10 1/2 feet off of a 240VAC line which is the residential drop which is still enough to fry you.

Oh, what exactly is my kind? Someone who has a ranch with lots of trees? Someone who's friends are ranchers with lots of trees? Someone who helps friends when asked?

 

[ropensaddle]

Non -qualified deer stand cutters are permitted to climb, pull vines, or anything short of hanging them selves within ten feet of energized conductors fixture or apparatus as long as they notify the power line owner and/of if the power line carries less than 750 volts

Any residential drop off of a step-down transformer will be below the 750 volt limit.

Therefore I am not breaking any laws, I do not hire out for tree work, I have recommended many times folks go hire a "professional". I am getting too old to play tree monkey anymore.

A man has to know his limitations. The one I dropped was 10 1/2 feet off of a 240VAC line which is the residential drop which is still enough to fry you.

Oh, what exactly is my kind? Someone who has a ranch with lots of trees? Someone who's friends are ranchers with lots of trees? Someone who helps friends when asked?

No if your not doing for hire that is different but the laws on power are energized conductors. The power company may have let something slide through on the deal but legally non Qualified tree trimmers are not legally within rights to trim or cut within 10 foot of any energized conductor fixture or apparatus. I am sorry if I misunderstood your posting but climbing with a deer stand unless your using climbing gear or better wording fall arrest is taking your life for granted and felling trees in and around powerlines is or can be putting others at serious risk. I meant better intentions than the way it played out.

 

[purplewg]

No if your not doing for hire that is different but the laws on power are energized conductors. The power company may have let something slide through on the deal but legally non Qualified tree trimmers are not legally within rights to trim or cut within 10 foot of any energized conductor fixture or apparatus. I am sorry if I misunderstood your posting but climbing with a deer stand unless your using climbing gear or better wording fall arrest is taking your life for granted and felling trees in and around powerlines is or can be putting others at serious risk. I meant better intentions than the way it played out.

Not a problem. Oh, one more thing. The only laborers we can hire here are Mexicans. Cubans won't work.

 

[Dayto]

I once drove a stake into the ground, to mark where the tree was going to hit, and punctured a waterline.

hahaha thats awesome , You get some rep for that one buddie.

 

[stihl sawing]

I once drove a stake into the ground, to mark where the tree was going to hit, and punctured a waterline.

they should have started calling you "Right on target Randy" after that amazing feat. But whoevers waterline you busted probably wasn't too happy.lol

 

[Gologit]

Cubans won't work.

None of them? I better check on those two guys I had piling brush for me last year. They claimed to be Cuban...but they worked their butts off. Maybe they were just pretending to be Cuban. I'll be using them again this year.

 

[RandyMac]

they should have started calling you "Right on target Randy" after that amazing feat. But whoevers waterline you busted probably wasn't too happy.lol

LOL
Actually I was glad I find where the waterline was, I had been misinformed by the resident dowser, by several feet. A poke with a stick is nothing compared to the slam of a big tree.
That nickname isn't on my list, I have had several over the years, some are even repeatable.

 

[ropensaddle]

LOL
Actually I was glad I find where the waterline was, I had been misinformed by the resident dowser, by several feet. A poke with a stick is nothing compared to the slam of a big tree.
That nickname isn't on my list, I have had several over the years, some are even repeatable.

Twice in 26 years I have had limbs falling and stick in the ground and get waterlines first time I did it I thought I struck oil lol One time we were called out to trim a new power construction job and it never fails every time the management of utilities does things it turns into huge cluster ####s, they will be building roads laying pipe and oll sorts of stupid crap while your attempting to not kill someone clearing trees lol. I have #####ed about it for years but the armchair management listens not lmao. One such time they were building a fiber optic line at the same time we were trimming the fiber boss comes up and goes ballistic and mind you it is 100 degrees in the shade and I inform him he better calm down before I have to open up a can. It seems the line got hammered by a limb and that meant he would have to call in a splice crew yada yada yada. I said well I did not even know it happened till now and that I don't get to make decisions about when we trim a new project out. He said don't let it happen again and I said and pointed three miles down the line and said my company expects everything within fifteen foot gone and trimmed in a week and a half tops I can not make that promise to you. About an hour goes by and several trims and the electric manager pulls up and we go over it again and finally I ask him do you expect this done next week and he say yes and I say and point again down the line and then tell him if I rope every limb off it is the only way to know for sure that line is not getting damaged I will be lucky to be a 1/4 finished next week. I then asked what was so bad about having to splice it a couple times if necessary. They finally pulled us out until the fiber line was layed but it must be expensive because he said cost of splicing and nothing else lol. This is why I don't care for corporations and their degrees puppets that have no experiance with work and are deaf when they talk with people that do have it!

 

[purplewg]

None of them? I better check on those two guys I had piling brush for me last year. They claimed to be Cuban...but they worked their butts off. Maybe they were just pretending to be Cuban. I'll be using them again this year.

Well there may be one or two. Mostly they just sell crack.

 

[gwiley]

I then asked what was so bad about having to splice it a couple times if necessary. They finally pulled us out until the fiber line was layed but it must be expensive because he said cost of splicing and nothing else lol.

I am surprised that he didn't give you figures. Depending on the fiber you can easily spend $10K per splice, more in some cases.