liability of walking from a job??????

[kf_tree]

this isn't pretty rigging ...........but one must make do.....

 

[kf_tree]

 

[kf_tree]

the head rope was set in a maple on the other side of the roof to a rope brake. this was the set up for the butt end after we wacked on it a bit.

 

[kf_tree]

its hard to tell from the piece of wood blocking the view, but the stick is actually suspended mid air.

normally we would rig from a high crotch and pull the tree off the roof and cut the bottom out, but since the tree was in such bad shape and it was the boss's call we did it this way.

 

[kf_tree]

the back side and above from where the lead ripped out

 

[MasterBlaster]

The rope that is attached to the front of the limb, where it is going up to the roof, I can't see, the leaves block it out.

Was it rubbing against the gutter fixture? Did that damage it? Or was it allready damaged, and didn't matter?

I bet yur glad that can of worms is over!




Or, is it?:alien:

 

[kf_tree]

the rope went across the roof into a maple. the roof had already taken a beating, lots of broken tiles and splintered wood. we fudged the gutter. it was either this way or pick a crotch high in the tree and chance pulling the rest of it down. it probbably would have held but the boss did not want to chance it.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

Crap, wish I could do jobs like that for $9000. That looks like a half day job, only I wouldn't have thrashed the gutter.

If you would have left it connected at the base, stuck a couple 6X6 beams under the spar to support it, then started cutting it off the roof, it would be unable to drop down and wreck stuff.

You also had the other half of the tree to pull off of. It doesn't look like you took much advantage of that.

That's all from the armchair tree guy.

 

[kf_tree]

mike,

i was against the method used, but since i'm just an employee it was not my call. because the part of the tree that was standing is in such bad shape my boss was afraid of pulling down the rest of the tree. also to avoid any possible liability issues he didn't want us to climb the tree to set a pulley. typiclly we would set a pulley up high in the tree, set the rope high a few feet back from the gutter and pull it up off the roof, then cut piece's off the bottom.
when my boss got the go ahead from the ins co told them we would damage the gutter and possibly the eve. the roof was already trashed. so since the ins co is already paying to reroof a terra cotta roof a gutter was a drop in the bucket.

i've used the prop up method before, but ithe spar was only hanging by a thread. i would not have worked on the limb till it was on the ground. i cut it free with a power pruner . the prop methed i;ve used more in up rooted tree's where i don't have to worry about any drop and i know it's still semi attached to the ground.

if i propped this tree then i would have had to go up on the spar to take it down. the piece's would have had to been roped since it was over a slate walkway and close to the windows. the shock of roping it off itself could have snapped it free. when we were cutting the bush off the roof as the weight changed it twisted and almost broke free then.

but i'm still interested to hear other ideas. has any one ever set up scaffoling uder a tree?

 

[Koa Man]

Originally posted by kf_tree
mike,

also to avoid any possible liability issues he didn't want us to climb the tree to set a pulley.

You can set a pulley up high by using a throw ball, setting a line with a pulley attached and hoisting the pulley up. Tie off the line and you're ready to go. I believe most people call that a retrievable false crotch.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

With a retrivable pulley, you will put up to 4 times the load lifted into the anchor point.

One of the concerns here is the structural integrity of the tree.

Not being on the ground, it all looks good from my armchair